Jon, The old south nine, (The Woodlands front nine) is not a bad nine holes at all. The quarry hole is great as is the drop shot par 3. However, It's the back nine, the final nine built, where the Woodlands problems lie. There's no cohesiveness, or even an attempt at making that nine fit the whole. It may not be a bad nine holes of golf, but it pales in comparison to the pre-existing 27 holes there.