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Joe Bausch

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The magazine GolfStyles has this year some very cheap golf available at some pretty good courses.  You can select four of the following courses for a grand total of 109 bucks.  Not bad.

Round at Berkleigh GC (reg. rate $55)
Round at Bethlehem GC (reg. rate $45)
Round at Center Valley GC (reg. rate $80)
Round at Olde Homestead (reg. rate $62)
Round at Riverview CC (reg. rate $75)
Round at Southmoore GC (reg. rate $55)
Round at The Architects GC (reg. rate $110)
Round at The Club at Morgan Hill (reg. rate $70)
Round at Royal Manchester (Opening Spring 2010; I'm told May 1 if all goes well)

Here is the web page:

http://www.golfstyles.net/philadelphia/2010readerrewards.html
« Last Edit: March 26, 2010, 12:54:38 PM by Joe Bausch »
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Michael Blake

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 01:10:38 PM »
Thanks for posting Joe. Nice deals.
Can I choose to play Architects four times?

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 01:20:16 PM »
Thanks for posting Joe. Nice deals.
Can I choose to play Architects four times?

No.  One time at a course max.  I'm choosing to revisit Center Valley (some might say I'm a glutton for some questionable architecture!) and Architects Club, and going for the first time to Riverview and Royal Manchester.
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The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Mike Cirba

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 01:25:28 PM »
Joe,

Two questions;

1) What is Royal Manchester?

2) Do I have to travel to Great Britain to play there?

Thanks

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 01:30:22 PM »
Here's a fairly recent local article from a York, PA newspaper on Royal Manchester:

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/sports/ci_14690645

And the club web page:

http://www.royalmanchestergolflinks.com/
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Mike Cirba

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 01:40:02 PM »
Kelly,

Concur with Berkleigh in terms of value.

Joe,

I see they are giving design credit to Tim Freeland, but evidently he's just taken a course already routed and somewhat shaped and brought it alive.

Anyone know who did the original routing?   I know Jim Spencer (who also did work at Hideaway Hills and many others in NE PA) was involved in the construction.

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2010, 01:43:24 PM »
I don't know much about all the courses but you definately need to include Berkleigh in your rotation. It's conditioning has been questioned in the past, but I think it is in great condition for playing golf by regular people.

I really like Berkleigh. I played it 3 or 4 times last year.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2010, 01:59:01 PM »
Here is more on Royal Manchester (with stuff on Tim Freeland near the end, but no mention of who did an initial routing):

For the past 10 years, there's been a golf course in the works just outside Manchester in York County. That's about halfway between Harrisburg and York, just off Interstate 83.

And now, finally, it's opening next month.

The story behind the building of the Royal Manchester Golf Links is a long and twisted road. Think of it more like a double-dogleg par-5.
Years ago, PP&L sought to build a course on a bluff overlooking its Brunner Island Power Plant, hard along the banks of the Susquehanna River in northern York County.

Two different management companies, contracted by PP&L, tried to get the course up and running but failed. Hard-core local golfers knew of the course, called the Phoenix Golf Links during construction. Stories abounded of bunkers featuring black ash instead of regular sand, giving the place an almost mythic quality.

But then news about the course dried up around 2007. No news releases, no Internet updates, no nothing.

Enter Raspberry Golf Management, brought in by PP&L to give it one last go. Based out of Raspberry Falls Golf & Hunt Club in Leesburg, Va., Raspberry Golf runs another club, Old Hickory Golf Club, in Woodbridge, Va.

When the opportunity came to extend its footprint and bring a new course to the midstate, Raspberry Golf leapt at the chance.
"What we've heard from PP&L and the locals is that it was a start-stop, start-stop process," LaMott Smith, a principal partner with Raspberry Golf, said. "The public was saying, 'Sure, we'll believe you're open when you're open.'"

Well, locals, believe, because with some cooperation from the weather, Royal Manchester will open April 2.

The course was actually ready to go late last summer and could have accommodated golfers by Labor Day. But without a clubhouse, Raspberry Golf felt it best to wait until spring.

"Our mentality from day one was under-promise and over-deliver," Smith said. "Since we had no clubhouse, we wanted to open it complete. It was a roll of the dice but a business decision. We wanted everything in place and to not give a half-hearted experience."

The clubhouse is now built, and with staff being hired, this par-5 is about a six-inch tap-in away from being completed.
Smith said Royal Manchester will be links-style, with only about two dozen small pines dotting the layout. Among courses in the area, he pegs it as a favorable comparison to Hershey Links.

"There's really only two bodies of water," he said. "The real challenge will be the wind, given where it's located. It's pretty high up here."
And oh, yes, no black ash in the bunkers. Just regular sand.

Architect Tim Freeland, who worked under Gary Player at various courses in the East, is credited as the designer. Freeland was brought in when Raspberry Golf came into the picture, and although some greens and basic routing were already in place, Freeland did the bulk of the design work.

Raspberry Golf projects Royal Manchester to do about 15,000-18,000 rounds in 2010, well below what a public course usually does in a year. That might be the best it can hope for in the inaugural season. After all, there's been a lack of a fall selling period, a harsh winter, a shaky economy, and the state of golf at the sport's highest levels.

"Candidly, there's the Tiger factor," Smith said. "His fans may not get the itch to play. So far the television ratings have been way down, so it's a concern."

The only other concern might be finding the course. The best route for Harrisburg-area golfers would be to take I-83 south to either the Newberrytown or Strinestown exits. Follow the billowing smokestack at Brunner Island to Manchester.

It's only about 12 miles from downtown Harrisburg as the crow flies, but give yourself about 25 minutes for the trip.

@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Michael Huber

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2010, 02:00:05 PM »
1.)  What does everyone have to say about Olde Homestead?  I played it a few years back and had a good time of it.

2.)  I never played the Architects but when did it get so expensive?  I seem to recall it being under the century mark when I lived in Philly.  

Mike Cirba

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2010, 02:06:58 PM »
Actually, I was in the parking lot of Berkleigh yesterday late afternoon meeting with "Deep Throat" and picking up a special delivery.

I'm sure he's reading, so thanks again MD!! 

Mike Cirba

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2010, 02:37:59 PM »
Kelly,

I saw a few people hitting balls...wish I'd known it was you!

Steve Strasheim

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2010, 02:56:50 PM »
This thread is of great interest, thanks.

If I was staying in South Philly, which 4 courses should be picked?

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2010, 03:03:09 PM »
This thread is of great interest, thanks.

If I was staying in South Philly, which 4 courses should be picked?

None are exactly a short drive for you Steve.  How would you like to sample four different architects, and a combination of old and new?

I would suggest:  Berkleigh, Center Valley, Morgan Hill, and Architects Club (the latter sort of trying to be 16 different architects!).
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Mike Cirba

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2010, 03:41:58 PM »
Speaking of the Philly area and new courses, anyone know when the Nicklaus Design Group's "Applecross" is supposed to open?

Carl Johnson

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2010, 04:03:50 PM »
The magazine GolfStyles has this year some very cheap golf available at some pretty good courses.
Joe, are there any decent public courses west of Philadelphia, say in the West Chester or Kennett Square area?  The only one I'm familiar with, which I played five years ago, is the Golf Course at Glen Mills.
Thanks, Carl

Michael Blake

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2010, 04:09:45 PM »
Carl,

Wyncote is fun.
www.wyncote.com



mike_malone

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2010, 04:17:51 PM »
 Hartefeld and Inniscrone are east of route 1 south of Kennett Square.
AKA Mayday

Joe Bausch

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2010, 04:17:56 PM »
Speaking of the Philly area and new courses, anyone know when the Nicklaus Design Group's "Applecross" is supposed to open?

That same issue of GolfStyles has an ad saying Summer 2010 for Applecross.
@jwbausch (for new photo albums)
The site for the Cobb's Creek project:  https://cobbscreek.org/
Nearly all Delaware Valley golf courses in photo albums: Bausch Collection

Bob Harris

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2010, 04:31:37 PM »
Speaking of the Philly area and new courses, anyone know when the Nicklaus Design Group's "Applecross" is supposed to open?

That same issue of GolfStyles has an ad saying Summer 2010 for Applecross.

We are scheduled to measure and do the course rating in April.  No definitive date on when the course will be open for play.

Rick Sides

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2010, 05:36:20 PM »
A couple good courses in the Philly/S. Jersey region are  Scotland Run, The Golf Club at Glen Mills, Lederach, Twisted Dune ( a bit closer to shore) and Wyncote

Michael Huber

Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2010, 06:42:56 PM »
The magazine GolfStyles has this year some very cheap golf available at some pretty good courses.
Joe, are there any decent public courses west of Philadelphia, say in the West Chester or Kennett Square area?  The only one I'm familiar with, which I played five years ago, is the Golf Course at Glen Mills.
Thanks, Carl

Inniscrone and Wyncote are both enjoyable courses.  Ill also add honeybrook, which is a bit more gentle than Inniscrone and Wyncote.  It isnt a pushover, however, and there still are a lot of fun holes.  

Steve Strasheim

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2010, 08:58:31 AM »
Thanks!

We have some dear friends that we visit in S. Philly a couple times a year. Looking for a little improvement from the last course I played, Roosevelt park.

Cheers!


This thread is of great interest, thanks.

If I was staying in South Philly, which 4 courses should be picked?

None are exactly a short drive for you Steve.  How would you like to sample four different architects, and a combination of old and new?

I would suggest:  Berkleigh, Center Valley, Morgan Hill, and Architects Club (the latter sort of trying to be 16 different architects!).

J Sadowsky

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2010, 01:41:52 PM »
Royal Manchester's brother Raspberry Falls is perhaps one of the worst attempts at a "links-styled course," in that it is basically a run of the mill parkland course but with less trees.  If Gary Player ever finds out his signature is on it, he might have a heart attack.  On the other hand, the third course in the triumvirate, Old Hickory, is a nice (if overpriced, overly narrow, and completely unwalkable) parkland course that is not trying to be something it is not.

From the few photos on RM, I'm guessing it is more like Raspberry Falls than Old Hickory.

John Shimony

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2010, 03:03:43 PM »
Makefield Highlands is a nice course that is about twenty minutes north of NE Philly.  The only bad memory is of the last hole.  I laid up short of the creek and had a long iron up the hill from a down hill lie.  Took a triple bogey.
« Last Edit: March 25, 2010, 03:13:30 PM by John Shimony »
John Shimony
Philadelphia, PA

Mark McKeever

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Re: public golf opps for those in Philly area
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2010, 05:20:51 PM »
I don't know much about all the courses but you definately need to include Berkleigh in your rotation. It's conditioning has been questioned in the past, but I think it is in great condition for playing golf by regular people.

I really like Berkleigh. I played it 3 or 4 times last year.

There are some great courses listed here, but I just can't get enough of Berkleigh.  I love the design and I know a lot of other guys here really appreciate the layout also.  I know Joe is always game to make the trek up to Allentown to play it.  I think we should try to get a group of some usual suspects to play here in the near future (Bond, Mike, Joe, etc. and anyone else who may want to play!).   

Mark
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