GCA Mock Fantasy Draft II - Dream Course Edition

[Garland Bayley]

I did suggest that Garland, and people have taken to it, but I don't know if it's actually a rule. 

Let's just say it is penance Kalen has to pay for losing an important match.
 

[Richard Choi]

Looking at the picture, it feels like those pools should be filled with Playmates and Hef...

[Carl Nichols]

I decided fairly early on that I wanted to pick only holes that I had seen in person, and preferably that I had played, in part to limit the universe of holes I had to think about.  Given that significant limitation, I'm pretty happy with my course! 

[Kalen Braley]

Looking at the picture, it feels like those pools should be filled with Playmates and Hef...

Richard,

Thats exactly what I was thinking at the time too!! 

[Alex Miller]

WEIRD.


This looks exactly like the transition from 9 to 10 at Robinson Ranch. Same archie probably

[Tom_Doak]

I will take the clubhouse at Stonewall, since it is an integral part of my 18th hole.

[Jim Colton]

Here are the final results.  I probably missed a switch or two so double check your info on the first page and confirm that everything is correct.

Thanks everybody for participating.  I hope it was fun and educational.  I know I did a lot of research on holes and course that I otherwise wouldn't have done if it weren't for this draft.  And agonizing over how to make the pieces fit provided a small glimpse of the tough decisions that the pros have to make in the real world.  There were around 195 different courses picked in the draft.

Because I was usually always posting picks, I never got to post pictures of my holes.  I was going to do that, along with a composite routing that I put together of my dream course.  However, after completing 90% of said routing, my computer crashed and I lost most of that work.  Oh well.  I do, however, leave you with this picture of my 7th hole:



ROUND ONE
1. JC Jones: Crystal Downs - No. 8, 550 Yds, Par 5
2. Matt Bosela: Cypress Point - No. 16, 231 Yds, Par 3
3. Wyatt Halliday: NGLA - No. 3, 430 Yds, Par 4
4. Ronald Montesano: The Old Course - No. 17, 455 Yds, Par 4
5. Tom Doak: Machrihanish - No. 1, 423 Yds, Par 4
6. Brad Fleischer: Kingsley Club - No. 1, 610 Yds, Par 5
7. Cristian Willaert: Crystal Downs - No. 5, 355 Yds, Par 4
8. Eric Smith: NGLA - No. 2, 330 Yds, Par 4
9. Kalen Braley: Augusta National - No. 13, 485 Yds, Par 5
10. Patrick Hodgdon: Pasatiempo - No. 16, 387 Yds, Par 4
11. Tim Bert: Cypress Point - No. 9, 289 Yds, Par 4
12. Jordan Wall: Riviera - No. 10, 315 Yds, Par 4
13. Deucie Bies: Cypress Point - No. 15, 130 Yds, Par 3
14. Jud Tigerman: North Berwick - No. 15, 190 Yds, Par 3
15. Sean Arble: Royal Troon - No. 8, 123 Yds, Par 3
16. Robert Ball: Royal Melbourne (West) - No. 6, 430 Yds, Par 4
17. Chip Gaskins: Sand Hills - No. 1, 549 Yds, Par 5
18. John Mayhugh: NGLA - No. 1, 330 Yds, Par 4
19. Mac Plumart: The Old Course - No. 18, 376 Yds, Par 4
20. Richard Choi: Chambers Bay - No. 10, 398 Yds, Par 4
21. George Freeman: Sand Hills - No. 17, 150 Yds, Par 3
22. Jim Thornton: Merion - No. 18, 505 Yds, Par 4
23. Alex Miller: Pebble Beach - No. 8, 416 Yds, Par 4
24. Jim Colton: Pine Valley - No. 13, 486 Yds, Par 4
25. Carl Nichols: Shinnecock - No. 10, 410 Yds, Par 4
26. Matthew Hunt: Royal County Down - No. 9, 490 Yds, Par 4
27. JNC_Lyon: NGLA - No. 17, 360 Yds, Par 4

ROUND TWO
28. JNC_Lyon: Merion - No. 5, 490 Yds, Par 4
29. Matthew Hunt: Yale - No. 10, 390 Yds, Par 4
30. Carl Nichols: Royal County Down - No. 1, 539 Yds, Par 5
31. Jim Colton: Ballyneal - No. 7, 352 Yds, Par 4
32. Alex Miller: Pine Valley - No. 5, 235 Yds, Par 3
33. Jim Thornton: Bethpage Black - No. 4, 530 Yds, Par 5
34. George Freeman: Kingston Heath - No. 10, 139 Yds, Par 3
35. Richard Choi: Plainfield - No. 2, 443 Yds, Par 4
36. Mac Plumart: Inverness - No. 7, 440 Yds, Par 4
37. John Mayhugh: Royal Dornoch - No. 14, 440 Yds, Par 4
38. Chip Gaskins: Royal County Down - No. 4, 213 Yds, Par 3
39. Robert Ball: Prairie Dunes - No. 8, 430 Yds, Par 4
40. Sean Arble: St Enodoc - No. 4, 323 Yds, Par 4
41. Jud Tigerman: Westward Ho - No. 9, 497 Yds, Par 5
42. Deucie Bies: Augusta National - No. 12, 155 Yds, Par 3
43. Jordan Wall: Pebble Beach - No. 18, 543 Yds, Par 5
44. Tim Bert: Sand Hills - No. 14, 510 Yds, Par 5
45. Patrick Hodgdon: The Old Course - No. 14, 530 Yds, Par 5
46. Kalen Braley: Merion - No. 11, 369 Yds, Par 4
47. Eric Smith: Pine Valley - No. 10, 145 Yds, Par 3
48. Cristian Willaert: Cypress Point - No. 13, 365 Yds, Par 4
49. Brad Fleischer: Highlands Links (Cape Breton) - No. 2, 447 Yds, Par 4
50. Tom Doak: Barnbougle Dunes - No. 4, 299 Yds, Par 4
51. Ronald Montesano: The Old Course - No. 11, 174 Yds, Par 3
52. Wyatt Halliday: Cypress Point - No. 17, 390 Yds, Par 4
53. Matt Bosela: Pacific Dunes - No. 13, 444 Yds, Par 4
54. JC Jones: Kingsley Club - No. 2, 138 Yds, Par 3

ROUND THREE
55. JC Jones: Pacific Dunes - No. 11, 148 Yds, Par 3; North Berwick - No. 13, 388 Yds, Par 4
56. Matt Bosela: The Old Course - No. 1, 376 Yds, Par 4; Riviera - No. 6, 175 Yds, Par 3
57. Wyatt Halliday: Ballyneal - No. 8, 515 Yds, Par 5; Cape Kidnappers - No. 4, 585 Yds, Par 5
58. Ronald Montesano: Pebble Beach - No. 9, 462 Yds, Par 4; Pine Valley - No. 7, 573 Yds, Par 5
59. Tom Doak: Shinnecock - No. 16, 530 Yds, Par 5; Crystal Downs - No. 6, 384 Yds, Par 4
60. Brad Fleischer: Mauna Kea - No. 3, 275 Yds, Par 3; Lahinch - No. 4, 475 Yds, Par 5
61. Cristian Willaert: Pine Valley - No. 6, 390 Yds, Par 4; Pine Valley - No. 3, 180 Yds, Par 3
62. Eric Smith: Barnbougle Dunes - No. 7, 122 Yds, Par 3; Ballybunion (Old) - No. 11, 451 Yds, Par 4
63. Kalen Braley: Pacific Dunes - No. 7, 436 Yds, Par 4; Pebble Beach - No. 10, 430 Yds, Par 4
64. Patrick Hodgdon: Rock Creek - No. 8, 193 Yds, Par 3; Cape Kidnappers - No. 12, 460 Yds, Par 4
65. Tim Bert: Pasatiempo - No. 3, 214 Yds, Par 3; Ekwanok - No. 7, 595 Yds, Par 5
66. Jordan Wall: Cypress Point - No. 4, 383 Yds, Par 4; Augusta National - No. 11, 400 Yds, Par 4
67. Deucie Bies: Shinnecock - No. 7, 185 Yds, Par 3; Oakmont - No. 3, 430 Yds, Par 4
68. Jud Tigerman: NGLA - No. 8, 391 Yds, Par 4; Pine Valley - No. 1, 421 Yds, Par 4
69. Sean Arble: Sunningdale (New) - No. 6, 510 Yds, Par 5; Royal Dornoch - No. 2, 184 Yds, Par 3
70. Robert Ball: Merion - No. 16, 428 Yds, Par 4; Sand Hills - No. 7, 283 Yds, Par 4
71. Chip Gaskins: Shinnecock - No. 14, 465 Yds, Par 4; Merion - No. 17, 221 Yds, Par 3
72. John Mayhugh: Fishers Island - No. 4, 397 Yds, Par 4; NGLA - No. 6, 141 Yds, Par 3
73. Mac Plumart: Couer d'Alene - No. 14, Yds, Par 3; Brickyard Crossing - No. 10, 346 Yds, Par 4
74. Richard Choi: Pebble Beach - No. 6, 500 Yds, Par 5; Pacific Dunes - No. 15, 539 Yds, Par 5
75. George Freeman: Kingsley Club - No. 4, 391 Yds, Par 4; Friars Head - No. 14, 535 Yds, Par 5
76. Jim Thornton: Fishers Island - No. 5, 229 Yds, Par 3; Pine Valley - No. 8, 326 Yds, Par 4
77. Alex Miller: Royal County Down - No. 3, 428 Yds, Par 4; Yale - No. 9, 213 Yds, Par 3
78. Jim Colton: NGLA - No. 4, 195 Yds, Par 3; Crystal Downs - No. 17, 311 Yds, Par 4
79. Carl Nichols: Pebble Beach - No. 7, 108 Yds, Par 3; Royal Portrush - No. 14, 210 Yds, Par 3
80. Matthew Hunt
81. JNC_Lyon: Pine Valley - No. 16, 450 Yds, Par 4; Shinnecock - No. 11, 150 Yds, Par 3

ROUND FOUR
82. JNC_Lyon: Yeamans Hall - No. 1, 420 Yds, Par 4; Cape Kidnappers - No. 14, 330 Yds, Par 4
83. Matthew Hunt
84. Carl Nichols: Pacific Dunes - No. 4, 463 Yds, Par 4; Riviera - No. 18, 475 Yds, Par 4
85. Jim Colton: Old Macdonald - No. 3, ? Yds, Par 4; Sand Hills - No. 18, 467 Yds, Par 4
86. Alex Miller: Friars Head - No. 15, 460 Yds, Par 4; LACC North - No. 11, 244 Yds, Par 3
87. Jim Thornton: Prairie Dunes - No. 2, 161 Yds, Par 3; Muirfield Village - No. 14, 363 Yds, Par 4
88. George Freeman: Bandon Trails - No. 1, 392 Yds, Par 4; Pacific Dunes - No. 18, 591 Yds, Par 5
89. Richard Choi: Bandon Dunes - No. 5, 428 Yds, Par 4; Bandon Trails - No. 17, 180 Yds, Par 3
90. Mac Plumart: Oitavos Dunes - No. 15, 170 Yds, Par 3; Cuscowilla - No. 5, 305 Yds, Par 4
91. John Mayhugh: Maidstone - No. 9, 402 Yds, Par 4; Royal Cinque Ports - No. 16, 507 Yds, Par 5
92. Chip Gaskins: Crystal Downs - No. 7, 335 Yds, Par 4; The Creek Club - No. 6, 450 Yds, Par 4
93. Robert Ball: Kittansett - No. 3, 165 Yds, Par 3; Aronomink - No. 1, 432 Yds, Par 4
94. Sean Arble: Prestwick - No. 13, 460 Yds, Par 4; North Berwick - No. 16, 379 Yds, Par 4
95. Jud Tigerman: The Old Course - No. 16, 381 Yds, Par 4; Sand Hills - No. 3, 216 Yds, Par 3
96. Deucie Bies: Pine Valley - No. 17, 345 Yds, Par 4; Carnoustie - No. 18, 499 Yds, Par 4
97. Jordan Wall: Pine Valley - No. 2, 368 Yds, Par 4; San Francisco - No. 13, 135 Yds, Par 3
98. Tim Bert: Crystal Downs - No. 1, 460 Yds, Par 4; Kingsley Club - No. 13, 285 Yds, Par 4
99. Patrick Hodgdon: The Country Club - No. 3, 450 Yds, Par 4; Seminole - No. 4, 450 Yds, Par 4
100. Kalen Braley: Thanksgiving Point - No. 17, 245 Yds, Par 3; Lakota Canyon - No. 18, 532 Yds, Par 5
101. Eric Smith: Old Macdonald - No. 1, ? Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 15, 235 Yds, Par 3
102. Cristian Willaert: Augusta National - No. 14, 420 Yds, Par 4; Ballybunion (Old) - No. 17, 400 Yds, Par 4
103. Brad Fleischer: Bethbage Black - No. 5, 475 Yds, Par 4; Lahinch - No. 6, 425 Yds, Par 4
104. Tom Doak: Ballyneal - No. 12, 375 Yds, Par 4; Royal Melbourne (West) - No. 17, 440 Yds, Par 4
105. Ronald Montesano: Merion - No. 13, 128 Yds, Par 3; Bandon Dunes - No. 16, 363 Yds, Par 4
106. Wyatt Halliday: Pacific Dunes - No. 16, 338 Yds, Par 4; Pine Valley - No. 18, 490 Yds, Par 4
107. Matt Bosela: Turnberry - No. 9, 452 Yds, Par 4; Royal Portrush - No. 5, 385 Yds, Par 4
108. JC Jones: Cruden Bay - No. 4, 185 Yds, Par 3; Prairie Dunes - No. 17, 520 Yds, Par 5

ROUND FIVE
109. JC Jones: Fishers Island - No. 3, 330 Yds, Par 4; Shinnecock - No. 18, 374 Yds, Par 4; Oakmont - No. 15, 435 Yds, Par 4
110. Matt Bosela: Augusta National - No. 10, 495 Yds, Par 4; Banff Springs - No. 4, 200 Yds, Par 3; Oakmont - No. 18, 484 Yds, Par 4
111. Wyatt Halliday: Crystal Downs - No. 14, 147 Yds, Par 3; Mid Ocean - No. 15, 505 Yds, Par 5; Sand Hills - No. 11, 408 Yds, Par 4
112. Ronald Montesano: Arcadia Bluffs - No. 12, 431 Yds, Par 4; Machrihanish - No. 5, 380 Yds, Par 4; Bandon Trails - No. 14, 325 Yds, Par 4
113. Tom Doak: Ballybunion (Old) - No. 15, 197 Yds, Par 3; Pacific Dunes - No. 3, 499 Yds, Par 5; Lahinch - No. 5, 155 Yds, Par 3
114. Brad Fleischer: Black Mesa - No. 7, 355 Yds, Par 4; County Sligo - No. 8, 460 Yds, Par 4; Kingsley Club - No. 9, 157 Yds, Par 3
115. Cristian Willaert: Pasatiempo - No. 18, 160 Yds, Par 3; Royal Ashdown - No. 12, 570 Yds, Par 5; St. George's Hill - No. 8, 180 Yds, Par 3
116. Eric Smith: Royal St Georges - No. 4, 495 Yds, Par 4; Seminole - No. 6, 388 Yds, Par 4; Jockey Club (Red) - No. 18, 355 Yds, Par 4
117. Kalen Braley: Pacific Dunes - No. 6, 330 Yds, Par 4; Rock Creek - No. 15, 290 Yds, Par 4; Rock Creek - No. 16, 410 Yds, Par 4
118. Patrick Hodgdon: Spyglass - No. 1, 600 Yds, Par 5; Sebonack - No. 2, 474 Yds, Par 4; Fishers Island - No. 11, 164 Yds, Par 3
119. Tim Bert: Pinehurst No. 2 - No. 5, 476 Yds, Par 4; Pacific Dunes - No. 2, 368 Yds, Par 4; Longshadow - No. 17, 220 Yds, Par 3
120. Jordan Wall: Oakmont - No. 17, 313 Yds, Par 4; NGLA - No. 16, 405 Yds, Par 4; Cypress Point - No. 5, 493 Yds, Par 5
121. Deucie Bies: San Francisco - No. 2, 459 Yds, Par 4; Riviera - No. 4, 236 Yds, Par 3; Sunningdale (Old) - No. 5, 419 Yds, Par 4
122. Jud Tigerman: The Old Course - No. 12, 316 Yds, Par 4; Rye - No. 4, 411 Yds, Par 4; San Francisco - No. 7, 184 Yds, Par 3
123. Sean Arble: Woking - No. 3, 445 Yds, Par 4; Aberdovey - No. 12, 149 Yds, Par 3; Sunningdale (New) - No. 14, 191 Yds, Par 3
124. Robert Ball: Whitinsville - No. 9, 446 Yds, Par 4; Country Club of Charleston - No. 11, 185 Yds, Par 3; Chicago Golf - No. 12, 415 Yds, Par 4
125. Chip Gaskins: Waterville - No. 11, 495 Yds, Par 5; St Louis CC - No. 2, 212 Yds, Par 3; Olympic Club (Lake) - No. 18, 350 Yds, Par 4
126. John Mayhugh: Rye - No. 7, 160 Yds, Par 3; Portmarnock - No. 15, 190 Yds, Par 3; Holston Hills - No. 5, 614 Yds, Par 5
127. Mac Plumart: Askernish - No. 1, 590 Yds, Par 5; Kiawah Island (Ocean) - No. 2, 543 Yds, Par 5; Pebble Beach - No. 3, 374 Yds, Par 4
128. Richard Choi: Augusta National - No. 1, 445 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 3, 140 Yds, Par 3; Bandon Dunes - No. 4, 410 Yds, Par 4
129. George Freeman: Franklin Hills - No. 13, 301 Yds, Par 4; Oakmont - No. 9, 477 Yds, Par 5; Eastward Ho! - No. 3, 325 Yds, Par 4
130. Jim Thornton: Myopia Hunt Club - No. 9, 135 Yds, Par 3; Shinnecock - No. 6, 474 Yds, Par 4; Ballybunion (Old) - No. 16, 499 Yds, Par 5
131. Alex Miller: Eastward Ho! - No. 6, 420 Yds, Par 4; NGLA - No. 7, 470 Yds, Par 4; Riviera - No. 1, 510 Yds, Par 5
132. Jim Colton: Shinnecock - No. 1, 391 Yds, Par 4; Shinnecock - No. 9, 411 Yds, Par 4; Cypress Point - No. 8, 369 Yds, Par 4
133. Carl Nichols: Pinehurst No. 2 - No. 2, 450 Yds, Par 4; Wannamoisett - No. 3, 140 Yds, Par 3; Shoreacres - No. 11, 380 Yds, Par 4
134. Matthew Hunt
135. JNC_Lyon: Oakmont - No. 8, 250 Yds, Par 3; Royal Melbourne (West) - No. 4, 470 Yds, Par 4; Seminole - No. 18, 415 Yds, Par 4

[Jim Colton]

ROUND SIX
136. JNC_Lyon: Royal Melbourne (West) - No. 10, 310 Yds, Par 4; Garden City - No. 2, 135 Yds, Par 3; Oak Hill (East) - No. 13, 600 Yds, Par 5
137. Matthew Hunt
138. Carl Nichols: Desert Forest - No. 16, 523 Yds, Par 5; Royal County Down - No. 13, 445 Yds, Par 4; Jockey Club (Red) - No. 17, 170 Yds, Par 3
139. Jim Colton: Old Macdonald - No. 6, 570 Yds, Par 5; Essex County - No. 11, 175 Yds, Par 3; Cypress Point - No. 12, 404 Yds, Par 4
140. Alex Miller: Royal Melbourne (East) - No. 2, 445 Yds, Par 4; Cabo Del Sol - No. 16, 450 Yds, Par 4; Merion - No. 10, 305 Yds, Par 4
141. Jim Thornton: Waterville - No. 17, 196 Yds, Par 3; Merion - No. 1, 350 Yds, Par 4; Oakmont - No. 12, 632 Yds, Par 5
142. George Freeman: Old Macdonald - No. 8, 200 Yds, Par 3; Lawsonia - No. 6, 440 Yds, Par 4; Black Rock (Silva) - No. 12, 225 Yds, Par 3
143. Richard Choi: Plainfield - No. 7, 471 Yds, Par 4; Bandon Trails - No. 8, 321 Yds, Par 4; Bethpage Black - No. 9, 460 Yds, Par 4
144. Mac Plumart: Tobacco Road - No. 4, 525 Yds, Par 5; Ko'olau - No. 6, 435 Yds, Par 4; Longaberger - No. 8, 444 Yds, Par 4
145. John Mayhugh: Prairie Dunes - No. 10, 185 Yds, Par 3; Royal Cinque Ports - No. 3, 510 Yds, Par 5; Swinley Forest - No. 12, 455 Yds, Par 4
146. Chip Gaskins: Augusta National - No. 3, 340 Yds, Par 4; Tobacco Road - No. 5, 333 Yds, Par 4; Colorado Golf Club - No. 9, 483 Yds, Par 4
147. Robert Ball: Western Gailes - No. 14, 562 Yds, Par 5; Lakeside - No. 15, 105 Yds, Par 3; Wilshire - No. 18, 439 Yds, Par 4
148. Sean Arble: St Enodoc - No. 1, 528 Yds, Par 5; Royal Dornoch - No. 11, 445 Yds, Par 4; Swinley Forest - No. 17, 170 Yds, Par 3
149. Jud Tigerman: Carnoustie - No. 2, 433 Yds, Par 4; Addington - No. 13, 230 Yds, Par 3; St Enodoc - No. 18, 469 Yds, Par 4
150. Deucie Bies: Rye - No. 13, 430 Yds, Par 4; Seminole - No. 16, 420 Yds, Par 4; Royal Cinque Ports - No. 6, 325 Yds, Par 4
151. Jordan Wall: Augusta National - No. 15, 535 Yds, Par 5; Seattle GC - No. 14, 530 Yds, Par 5; Chicago Golf - No. 7, 207 Yds, Par 3
152. Tim Bert: Banff Springs - No. 10, 225 Yds, Par 3; Holston Hills - No. 8, 148 Yds, Par 3; Cypress Point - No. 6, 521 Yds, Par 5
153. Patrick Hodgdon: New South Wales - No. 5, 515 Yds, Par 5; Sand Hills - No. 13, 210 Yds, Par 3; Sleepy Hollow - No. 15, 400 Yds, Par 4
154. Kalen Braley: Pacific Dunes - No. 1, 360 Yds, Par 4; Pacific Grove - No. 12, 520 Yds, Par 5; Cypress Point - No. 14, 390 Yds, Par 4
155. Eric Smith: Sand Hills - No. 5, 410 Yds, Par 4; Sand Hills - No. 8, 365 Yds, Par 4; Sutton Bay - No. 14, 420 Yds, Par 4
156. Cristian Willaert: Old Macdonald - No. 4, 400 Yds, Par 4; Old Macdonald - No. 16, 430 Yds, Par 4; Pasatiempo - No. 10, 495 Yds, Par 4
157. Brad Fleischer: St Andrews Beach - No. 12, 425 Yds, Par 4; Hirono - No. 13, 167 Yds, Par 3; Diamante - No. 15, 390 Yds, Par 4
158. Tom Doak: Winged Foot (West) - No. 10, 190 Yds, Par 3; Barnbougle Dunes - No. 13, 208 Yds, Par 3; Sebonack - No. 11, 460 Yds, Par 4
159. Ronald Montesano: Cal Club - No. 1, 510 Yds, Par 5; Merion - No. 4, 600 Yds, Par 5; Pasatiempo - No. 15, 145 Yds, Par 3
160. Wyatt Halliday: Newcastle - No. 7, 160 Yds, Par 3; Royal Melbourne (West) - No. 5, 175 Yds, Par 3; Oakmont - No. 2, 340 Yds, Par 4
161. Matt Bosela: Royal County Down - No. 8, 430 Yds, Par 4; Highlands Links (Cape Breton) - No. 15, 540 Yds, Par 5; Jasper Park - No. 14, 360 Yds, Par 4
162. JC Jones: Muirfield - No. 5, 560 Yds, Par 5; Kingsbarns - No. 12, 566 Yds, Par 5; Sleepy Hollow - No. 16, 155 Yds, Par 3

ROUND SEVEN
163. JC Jones: Greywalls - No. 9, 389 Yds, Par 4; Crystal Downs - No. 10, 390 Yds, Par 4; Maidstone - No. 7, 336 Yds, Par 4
164. Matt Bosela: Cruden Bay - No. 7, 385 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 11, 165 Yds, Par 3; Royal Dornoch - No. 17, 405 Yds, Par 4
165. Wyatt Halliday: Riviera - No. 9, 458 Yds, Par 4; Banff Springs - No. 12, 547 Yds, Par 5; Bandon Trails - No. 13, 401 Yds, Par 4
166. Ronald Montesano: Bethpage Black - No. 2, 389 Yds, Par 4; Pacific Dunes - No. 10, 205 Yds, Par 3; Dunes Club - No. 8, 513 Yds, Par 5
167. Tom Doak: St. George's - No. 2, 443 Yds, Par 4; Royal West Norfolk - No. 8, 485 Yds, Par 5; Friars Head - No. 9, 390 Yds, Par 4
168. Brad Fleischer: Royal Adelaide - No. 11, 386 Yds, Par 4; Kauri Cliffs - No. 17, 472 Yds, Par 4; Valderrama - No. 10, 389 Yds, Par 4
169. Cristian Willaert: Morfontaine - No. 7, 430 Yds, Par 4; Royal St Georges - No. 2, 420 Yds, Par 4; Haagsche - No. 15, 395 Yds, Par 4
170. Eric Smith: Royal St Georges - No. 3, 210 Yds, Par 3; Prairie Dunes - No. 13, 445 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 16, 540 Yds, Par 5
171. Kalen Braley: Spyglass Hill - No. 4, 360 Yds, Par 4; Wine Valley - No. 5, 420 Yds, Par 4; Gozzer Ranch - No. 8, 520 Yds, Par 5
172. Patrick Hodgdon: San Francisco - No. 18, 524 Yds, Par 5; Bandon Dunes - No. 10, 362 Yds, Par 4; Lahinch - No. 9, 400 Yds, Par 4
173. Tim Bert: Bandon Trails - No. 4, 408 Yds, Par 4; Bandon Dunes - No. 11, 384 Yds, Par 4; Yale - No. 12, 400 Yds, Par 4
174. Jordan Wall: Shoreacres - No. 12, 130 Yds, Par 3; Garden City - No. 9, 325 Yds, Par 4; Fishers Island - No. 8, 470 Yds, Par 4
175. Deucie Bies: Ballybunion (Old) - No. 1, 392 Yds, Par 4; Royal St Georges - No. 9, 385 Yds, Par 4; Baltimore Country Club (East) - No. 14, 608 Yds, Par 5
176. Jud Tigerman: Lost Dunes - No. 14, 375 Yds, Par 4; Baltimore Country Club (East) - No. 14, 608 Yds, Par 5; Yale - No. 17, 435 Yds, Par 4
177. Sean Arble: Cavendish - No. 10, 422 Yds, Par 4; Yale - No. 17, 435 Yds, Par 4; Lost Dunes - No. 14, 375 Yds, Par 4
178. Robert Ball: Victoria Club - No. 4, 556 Yds, Par 5; CC of Detroit - No. 10, 569 Yds, Par 5; Desert Forest - No. 13, 440 Yds, Par 4
179. Chip Gaskins: Maidstone - No. 8, 150 Yds, Par 3; Mayacama - No. 15, 535 Yds, Par 5; Ballyneal - No. 10, 508 Yds, Par 4
180. John Mayhugh: Yale - No. 8, 415 Yds, Par 4; Belvedere - No. 11, 390 Yds, Par 4; Capilano - No. 18, 555 Yds, Par 5
181. Mac Plumart: Sea Island (Seaside) - No. 13, 387 Yds, Par 4; Golf Club of GA (Lakeside) - No. 11, 607 Yds, Par 5; Gozzer Ranch - No. 12, 364 Yds, Par 4
182. Richard Choi: Plainfield - No. 11, 148 Yds, Par 3; Challenge at Manele - No. 12, 202 Yds, Par 3; Chambers Bay - No. 14, 521 Yds, Par 4
183. George Freeman: Mid Ocean Club - No. 5, 433 Yds, Par 4; Greywalls - No. 7, 489 Yds, Par 4; The Country Club - No. 11, 515 Yds, Par 5
184. Jim Thornton: Pasatiempo - No. 11, 392 Yds, Par 4; Friars Head - No. 7, 540 Yds, Par 5; The Old Course - No. 13, 413 Yds, Par 3
185. Alex Miller: Augusta National - No. 18, 385 Yds, Par 4; Old Macdonald - No. 17, 570 Yds, Par 5; Sand Hills - No. 4, 485 Yds, Par 4
186. Jim Colton: Blackwolf Run (River) - No. 5, 427 Yds, Par 4; World Woods (Pine Barrens) - No. 14, 547 Yds, Par 5; Kingsbarns - No. 15, 212 Yds, Par 3
187. Carl Nichols: Bethesda CC - No. 5, 470 Yds, Par 4; Winged Foot (West) - No. 6, 324 Yds, Par 4; Cuscowilla - No. 8, 235 Yds, Par 3
188. Matthew Hunt
189. JNC_Lyon: Long Shadow - No. 3, 570 Yds, Par 5; Country Club of Buffalo - No. 6, 175 Yds, Par 3; Fox Chapel - No. 7, 300 Yds, Par 4

ROUND EIGHT
190. JNC_Lyon: Oak Hill (West) - No. 9, 365 Yds, Par 4; Kiawah Island (Ocean) - No. 12, 450 Yds, Par 4; Leatherstocking - No. 15, 470 Yds, Par 5
191. Matthew Hunt
192. Carl Nichols: Kinloch - No. 9, 586 Yds, Par 5; Cuscowilla - No. 12, 300 Yds, Par 4; Congressional (Blue) - No. 15, 440 Yds, Par 4
193. Jim Colton: Bandon Trails - No. 2, 214 Yds, Par 3; Old Macdonald - No. 10, 420 Yds, Par 4; Blackwolf Run (River) - No. 16, 620 Yds, Par 5
194. Alex Miller: Bethpage Black - No. 12, 501 Yds, Par 4; Rustic Canyon - No. 13, 540 Yds, Par 5; Pacific Dunes - No. 14, 145 Yds, Par 3
195. Jim Thornton: Linville - No. 3, 472 Yds, Par 4; Bel-Air - No. 10, 195 Yds, Par 3; The Honors Course - No. 15, 475 Yds, Par 4
196. George Freeman: The Old Course - No. 2, 411 Yds, Par 4; Crystal Downs - No. 15, 327 Yds, Par 4; Cape Kidnappers - No. 16, 500 Yds, Par 5
197. Richard Choi: Bethpage Black - No. 13, 554 Yds, Par 5; Chambers Bay - No. 16, 425 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 18, 450 Yds, Par 4
198. Mac Plumart: Southshore - No. 16, 170 Yds, Par 3; Black Diamond Ranch - No. 17, 225 Yds, Par 3; The Addington - No. 9, 380 Yds, Par 4
199. John Mayhugh: Engineers - No. 2, 400 Yds, Par 4; West Sussex - No. 13, 382 Yds, Par 4; Royal St Georges - No. 17, 428 Yds, Par 4
200. Chip Gaskins: Piping Rock - No. 12, 410 Yds, Par 4; Wild Horse - No. 13, 191 Yds, Par 3; Royal County Down - No. 16, 340 Yds, Par 4
201. Robert Ball: Jasper Park - No. 2, 490 Yds, Par 5; Ekwanok - No. 5, 380 Yds, Par 5; Pacific Dunes - No. 17, 210 Yds, Par 3
202. Sean Arble: Beau Desert - No. 5, 411 Yds, Par 4; Beau Desert - No. 9, 260 Yds, Par 4; Enniscrone - No. 15, 421 Yds, Par 4
203. Jud Tigerman: Talking Stick (North) - No. 11, 261 Yds, Par 3; Skokie - No. 10, 410 Yds, Par 4; Pine Needles - No. 6, 460 Yds, Par 4
204. Deucie Bies: Castle Pines - No. 8, 570 Yds, Par 5; Laurel Valley - No. 10, 432 Yds, Par 4; Muirfield - No. 11, 389 Yds, Par 4
205. Jordan Wall: Riviera - No. 3, 434 Yds, Par 4; Seattle GC - No. 1, 424 Yds, Par 4; Chambers Bay - No. 6, 447 Yds, Par 4
206. Tim Bert: MPCC (Shore) - No. 15, 415 Yds, Par 4; Sand Hills - No. 16, 600 Yds, Par 5; Wolf Point - No. 18, 360 Yds, Par 4
207. Patrick Hodgdon: County Sligo - No. 17, 455 Yds, Par 4; Lookout Mountain - No. 6, 125 Yds, Par 3; Old Macdonald - No. 7, 370 Yds, Par 4
208. Kalen Braley: North Berwick - No. 2, 432 Yds, Par 4; Cal Club - No. 3, 415 Yds, Par 4; Ballyneal - No. 9, 380 Yds, Par 4
209. Eric Smith: Muirfield - No. 9, 509 Yds, Par 5; Pacific Dunes - No. 12, 529 Yds, Par 5; St Andrews Beach - No. 17, 511 Yds, Par 5
210. Cristian Willaert: Haagsche - No. 1, 490 Yds, Par 5; Royal County Down - No. 9, 480 Yds, Par 4; MPCC (Shore) - No. 11, 170 Yds, Par 3
211. Brad Fleischer: Cabo Del Sol (Ocean) - No. 18, 430 Yds, Par 4; Architects - No. 14, 482 Yds, Par 4; Carne - No. 16, 180 Yds, Par 3
212. Tom Doak: Rock Creek - No. 7, 470 Yds, Par 4; County Louth - No. 14, 340 Yds, Par 4; Stonewall (Old) - No. 18, 456 Yds, Par 4
213. Ronald Montesano: Lookout Point - No. 3, 473 Yds, Par 5; Fox Chapel - No. 6, 193 Yds, Par 3; Tobacco Road - No. 18, 420 Yds, Par 4
214. Wyatt Halliday: Garden City - No. 1, 300 Yds, Par 4; Royal County Down - No. 6, 404 Yds, Par 4; Friars Head - No. 10, 235 Yds, Par 3
215. Matt Bosela: Friars Head - No. 2, 580 Yds, Par 5; Sagebrush - No. 3, 416 Yds, Par 4; MPCC (Shore) - No. 12, 588 Yds, Par 5
216. JC Jones: Kingsley Club - No. 6, 395 Yds, Par 4; NGLA - No. 14, 360 Yds, Par 4; Belvedere - No. 1, 370 Yds, Par 4

[Jim Colton]

JC Jones: 6589, 36-36 72         
Matt Bosela: 7079, 35-36 71         
Wyatt Halliday: 6828, 36-36 72         
Ronald Montesano: 6739, 40-32 72         
Tom Doak: 6744, 37-34 71         
Brad Fleischer: 7000, 36-34 70         
Cristian Willaert: 6730, 35-35 70         
Eric Smith: 6800, 35-37 72         
Kalen Braley: 7324, 37-38 75         
Patrick Hodgdon: 7072, 36-36 72         
Tim Bert: 6878, 36-36 72         
Jordan Wall: 6853, 36-37 73         
Deucie Bies: 6809, 35-35 70         
Jud Tigerman: 6564, 36-33 69         
Sean Arble: 6057, 36-33 69         
Robert Ball: 6948, 38-35 73         
Chip Gaskins: 6580, 34-36 70         
John Mayhugh: 6901, 36-36 72         
Mac Plumart: 6683, 39-33 72         
Richard Choi: 7035, 36-35 71         
George Freeman: 6841, 36-37 73         
Jim Thornton: 6654, 35-35 70         
Alex Miller: 7222, 35-36 71         
Jim Colton: 6897, 35-36 71         
Carl Nichols: 6668, 35-35 70         
Matthew Hunt: 490, 4-0 4         
JNC_Lyon: 6710, 34-37 71

[Ronald Montesano]

Mac or I had best get an award for "Guy who cared least how his scorecard would look, most about how his course would play" or something to that effect...thought I was the only one with five stroke minimal separation between nines until I saw my GCA buddy from Atlanta.  It's a select group, buddy.  Welcome in!!

A nod out west to Kalen Braley, "High par man."  A guy after my own heart, as I love par fives.

[Jud_T]

Jim,

Thanks for putting in the elbow grease, it was fun...Now we have to go back to the drawing board to come up with an interesting new challenge for #III!

[Tom_Doak]

I've been going through the lists this morning trying to highlight some of the most inspired choices and most underrated holes, which I will post below.

Thanks to the commissioner for doing this.  The group was just the right size to get us beyond the usual choices and show some inspiration.

Now that I'm home and have some of my source material, I'm also going to work this weekend on a second list of 18 great holes that were snubbed by the 27 owners.  There are certainly some terrific holes that were missed.

[Tom_Doak]

The most inspired choices, by owner:

JC Jones:  5th at Muirfield, a great three-shotter with a unique two-tiered sideways green, which was the inspiration for the 18th green at Sebonack.  Honorable mention:  1st at Belvedere, 4th at Cruden Bay
       
Matt Bosela:  8th at Royal County Down.  If you want a really tough par 4, look no further.  HM:  17th at Royal Dornoch
       
Wyatt Halliday:  9th at Riviera.  One of the great greens of the world, sitting on an angle to the fairway with its tier running through the green on the 90-degree opposite angle, and a pretty nice background, too.  HM:  1st at Garden City, which I would have chosen as underrated anywhere but on GCA.
       
Ronald Montesano:  5th at Machrihanish.  The first hole is so good that most people never get around to talking about this sharp doglegged hole over a heaving fairway.  HM:  9th at Pebble Beach, unfairly overshadowed by others on that course.
             
Brad Fleischer:  15th at Diamante.  Only one hole was picked from this course that few have seen to date, but Brad picked the best of them, I think.  HM:  11th at Royal Adelaide.
     
Cristian Willaert:  12th at Royal Ashdown Forest.  A terrific, natural, three-shot par 5 without a bunker, like the rest of the course.
       
Eric Smith:  1st at Old Macdonald.   Not well known yet, but probably the best opening hole we've ever built.  I only realized after we were done that it is the same prototype as the 1st at Yeamans Hall, also selected here -- but I think our hole is better.
       
Kalen Braley:  2nd at North Berwick (West).  Not just a diagonal par-4 over the beach, there are lots of funky contours if you bail out to the safe side, and a cool wrinkled green.  Plus, I made a kick-in birdie there in the company four-on-four match this summer.  HM:  7th at Pacific Dunes, the most underrated hole on that course.
     
Patrick Hodgdon:  9th at Lahinch.  One of the two remaining MacKenzie greens at Lahinch -- and Martin Hawtree has attempted to bypass the other!  The line of the green means the best line off the tee might be into the left rough.  HM:  3rd at The Country Club.
       
Tim Bert:  4th at Bandon Trails.  HM:  16th at Sand Hills.  I think he's nicknamed after the wrong architect.
     
Jordan Wall:  16th at National Golf Links.  A lot of people dismiss this hole because of its beautiful setting.  Both the drive and the second shot are just spectacular.
       
Deucie Bies:  2nd at San Francisco.  A beautiful hole down into a canyon and then back up out of it, sets up for a draw on the tee and a running fade on the approach, and you can't let yourself get above the hole.  HM:  9th at Sandwich, 13th at Rye.
       
Jud Tigerman:  4th at Rye.  Simply one of the great par-4 holes in golf, with a tee shot out along a tightrope.  Jud, you really should see it someday.    HM:  13th at The Addington.
       
Sean Arble:  10th at Cavendish, which Sean aptly depicted a month ago.  HM:  4th at St. Enodoc, 13th at Prestwick.

Robert Ball:  18th at Wilshire, though I have not seen the newly restored version.
       
Chip Gaskins:  6th at The Creek.  Not underrated on this web site, but neither were any of Chip's other picks.
       
John Mayhugh:  10th at Prairie Dunes, a great short hole with a wild green.  Jeff Brauer would come up with some new theory of how par-3 holes should not reject golf shots and discriminate against golfers, if I had built this one.  HM:  12th at Swinley Forest.
       
Mac Plumart:  7th at Inverness, with one of the best creeks in golf.  Mac picked SIX holes I have never seen, way more than anyone else, so I don't know if those are underrated or whether he's just crazy.
       
Richard Choi:  11th at Plainfield.  Followed by the other two holes he picked from Plainfield.  And he didn't even pick one of the best holes at Plainfield; Plainfield is underrated.
         
George Freeman:  15th at Crystal Downs, which I always tell people is the most underrated hole there; it's a short par 4, but the fairway has just enough roll that it's difficult to leave yourself the stance you want for a demanding little pitch shot.  HM:  11th at The Country Club, 13th at Franklin Hills.
   
Jim Thornton:  13th at Muirfield, does not get nearly enough respect for the most severe bunkering in golf.  Amazingly, he also picked the 9th at Myopia, a shorter version of the same thing.
     
Alex Miller:  3rd at Royal County Down.  There is exactly one spot in the left-center of the fairway where you can get a good look down through the dunes to the green, but the combination of the volcano bunker left and the contours of the fairway ensure that few people ever get to that spot.
       
Jim Colton:  11th at Essex County, a great simple par-3 hole.  HM:  10th at Old Macdonald.
       
Carl Nichols:  16th at Desert Forest.  There aren't many desert holes which distinguish themselves, because they mostly look alike.  This is the exception.         
       
JNC_Lyon:  16th at Pine Valley.  I suspect this green was built pretty much on the natural contour of the ground, and it's one of the coolest I've ever played.


I have refrained from singling out the most overrated golf holes on the list ... I won't chime in on that unless everybody else sticks their neck out, too.  But I will say there are a couple of guys who participated, whose comments I will take a bit less seriously in the future. 

[Ronald Montesano]

Thank Ran for my choice of 5 hole at Macrihanish.  I haven't set foot on the hallowed grounds.  I was after the first hole (sniped by Mr. Michigan) and came across Ran's revelation of 5 as his favorite...'nuff said/written.

[Tim Bert]

Tom - thanks for setting the record straight. To be fair both Trails 4 and Sand Hills 16 came very late in the draft. I had to settle for those gems because all the Doak BBoys here so over-reacted to your courses!!   

As one that has never had the pleasure of playing The Old Course I was surprised by Jim's summary that a stretch as long as 3-10 could go undrafted.  Can a course of that high praise really have a stretch of 8 consecutive holes unworthy of the draft?

[Carl Nichols]

The most inspired choices, by owner:

What was yours?  I need to know how seriously to take your comments in the future.   

[Sean_A]

From where I am sitting - some of the best choices

Matt B #5 Portrush: Great kick shot to the back shelf
R Montesano #17 TOC
P Hodgdon #17 Co Sligo
J Mayhugh Foxy: Maybe the best hole in golf
J Tigerman #9 Westward Ho!
E Smith #4 Sandwich: All the attention is on the bunkers, but the green is what really makes this hole
K Braley #2 North Berwick: Love the humps out on the left for those who play it too safe - very difficult to make par from there.

Ciao

[Tom_Doak]

As one that has never had the pleasure of playing The Old Course I was surprised by Jim's summary that a stretch as long as 3-10 could go undrafted.  Can a course of that high praise really have a stretch of 8 consecutive holes unworthy of the draft?

Tim:

I would absolutely have taken the 4th hole at The Old Course, but there are so many good choices for a fourth hole that I can see where it would go undrafted.  I was going to take it for my list of best unclaimed holes, but now I'll have to go elsewhere.

[Tom_Doak]

The most inspired choices, by owner:

What was yours?  I need to know how seriously to take your comments in the future.   

Carl:  That would be for others to decide.

I did count up that of the 469 (26 full courses plus Matthew's one hole), I had seen all but 35 of them in person.  I wonder if Ran could beat that.

[Sean_A]

Some wonderful holes not selected:

#10 St Georges Hill
#8 Ballybunion
#16 Addington
#8 Turnberry
#6 Tobacco Road
#13 Lahinch
#6 Dornoch
#s 2, 5 & 16 Rye
#17 Brora
#17 North Berwick
#17 Muirfield
#s 4 & 9 Swinley Forest
#4 Portrush
#6 Cruden Bay
#16 Pennard
#5 Enniscrone
#12 Kington
# 8 Formby
#1 Birkdale
#10 Portrush Valley
#15 Harlech
#11 Wallasey
#6 Yeamans Hall
#7 Co Sligo

There are more, but I am tired.

Ciao

[Kalen Braley]

Tom,

We're all ready for you top 18 bone-head picks list that you alluded to earlier... 

I know I've got at least one in there with Thanksgiving Point #17, but I wanted to intentionally do something local to add a bit of spice. So with that, why don't you let us have it!!   

P.S.  Provided you do this, I will also offer up my own version of a "doh!!!" list where I felt someone took a hole wayyy too early on at the expense of passing up on something way better.

Kalen

[Tom_Doak]

Kalen:

I have never seen Thanksgiving Point, so I wouldn't have included it in my list of bad picks.  I'll look and see if I can come up with a worst-of-the-best list.

[Sean Leary]

1. Seattle GC - Par 4, 424 yards  -  played this hole, and love it.  Solid par-4 and a great way to begin a round.
2. Pine Valley - Par 4, 368 yards  -  the green looks amazing, from everything I've heard of the hole I'm glad I got it!
3. Riviera - Par 4, 430 yards  -  played this hole, very good hole and a really fun green.
4. Cypress Point - Par 4, 383 yards  -  pesonal favorite at Cypress.  Love this hole, great green!
5. Cypress Point - Par 5, 493 yards  -  best bunkering I've ever seen on a par-5, and perhaps on any golf hole period.
6.Chambers bay - Par 4, 420 yards  -  very good golf hole, cool great and awesome tee shot.
7. Chicago GC - Pa 3, 207 yards  -  a redan, great looking hole.
8. Fishers Island - Par 4, 480 yards  -  really great half par hole.
9. Garden City - Par 4, 325 yards  -  looks awesome, crazy little hole
10. Riviera - Par 4, 310 yards  -  do I need to say anything?
11. Augusta National - Par 4, 490 yards  -  I wanted this hole not only because Amen Corner is very historic, but a great half par hole from all the way back.
12. Shoreaces - Par 3, 130 yards  -  cool looking shot hole, down in the ravine.
13. San Francisco GC - Par 3, 135 yards  -  seen, never played, and I just love it.  The only question I had in routing this course was two 3's in a row but they are different enough to where I didn't mind.
14. Seattle GC - Par 5, 535 yards  -  I could say lots about this hole, but I love it and it has a lot of options.  Really great hole.
15. Augusta National - Par 5, 530  -  again, do I need to say anything?
16. National Golf Links - Par 4, 410 yards  -  the ultimate punchbowl hole?  Mr. Doak recently stated it was one of his two favorite holes at National.
17. Oakmont - Par 4, 313 yards  -  great penultimate hole where I made a hole in one on Tiger Woods 2010 and sparked an epic comeback.  Oh, its a great hole in real life, too!
18. Pebble Beach - Par 5, 543 yards  -  best finishing hole in golf.

Ending with the clubhouse at Seattle GC.

Par 73, 6926 yards

Very happy with this course.  I got my personal favorite at Cypress, several holes I feel could have gone in the first round, and a relenting test with great golf holes.  Modeled after Cypress Point, the course features back to back short par-4's, par-3's, and par-5's

I also really like the way my course finishes.

I've played eight of these holes, and seen nine.  I think that's petty cool as well.


Seattle GC has one of th best clubhouses and locker rooms I have ever seen.  Mike Keiser signed the papers for the poperty at bandon in the locker room.  I wish I could show pictures, but that would be against the rules.  But for those who have been there, it's amazing and even Leary would back me up here!

Your choice of clubhouse and locker room at Seattle is excellent compared to your choices of holes there for your dream 18.

[Matt Bosela]

Mac picked SIX holes I have never seen, way more than anyone else, so I don't know if those are underrated or whether he's just crazy.

Tom,

I have to imagine there are at least three of my picks you haven't seen yet (#3 Sagebrush, #4 Banff, #14 Jasper Park) - I think that just proves we need to find you a nice piece of land here in Canada so you visit more!

[Carl Nichols]

Tom,

We're all ready for you top 18 bone-head picks list that you alluded to earlier... 

I know I've got at least one in there with Thanksgiving Point #17, but I wanted to intentionally do something local to add a bit of spice. So with that, why don't you let us have it!!   

P.S.  Provided you do this, I will also offer up my own version of a "doh!!!" list where I felt someone took a hole wayyy too early on at the expense of passing up on something way better.

Kalen

Yeah, fire away!