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JNC Lyon

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I am looking for any information people might have on Woodstock Golf Course in Connecticut.  The course is located in Roseland Park, a privately-owned public access park established in 1876.  The Bowen family created the park as a public service to the people of Woodstock, CT.

The course itself is no great architectural masterpiece.  It consists of 9 holes, stretches well under 3,000 yards, and features no bunkers.  However, there is potentially some interesting history behind the course.  Some sources indicate that the course was constructed in 1876, while others say the course was built in 1896.  If the course were indeed constructed in 1876, it would be the oldest formal golf course in the United States.

If anyone has any historical information on this course, I would love to hear it.  It would be great to find out when the course was built, and, if possible, who built it.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 04:21:04 PM »
The golf course, 1934:



As far as I know the architect remains unknown.
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JNC Lyon

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 04:29:44 PM »
Jim,

The layout appears to have changed between 1934 and now.  I am still wondering if the golf course was built in 1876 or 1896.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 04:41:23 PM »
JNC,
It occupies the same chunk of land now as it did in '34. The club says 1896.

Anthony Pioppi might have more info on it. You can find him/his contact info if you plug "1934 Connecticut Aerails" into the search box.
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Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 06:58:07 PM »
JNC,
No mention of a golf course:

"In 1880 the population of Woodstock numbered 2,639; children between 4 and 16 years of age, 556; grand list, $943,536; dwelling houses, 607; mills, stores, distilleries, manufactories, 49; horses, asses, mules, 647; neat cattle, 2,929; carriages and pleasure wagons, 87."
"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Ronald Montesano

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 08:14:07 PM »
Wait a second, Jim...just hold on there.  The census includes distilleries and asses...that's golf as far as I'm concerned!!
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Mike Cirba

Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2010, 08:58:40 PM »
JNC_Lyon,

This March, 1896 story provides a bit more detail if not the architectural story.

Robert Pryde did quite a bit of work in CT during this period, so he's one possible culprit.


JNC Lyon

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2010, 09:11:36 PM »
Mike,

Good to have you back on GCA!  The article makes no mention of the golf course, though that does not necessarily mean that the course did not exist at the time.  However, it make sense that the trustees of Roseland Park would have used the $10,000 mentioned in the article to build the golf course.  The date (1896) certainly lines up with other sources I've seen.  Thoughts?

Out of curiosity, is the obituary from the Hartford Courant?

Thanks for the help,

John
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

Mike Cirba

Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2010, 09:20:08 PM »
Mike,

Good to have you back on GCA!  The article makes no mention of the golf course, though that does not necessarily mean that the course did not exist at the time.  However, it make sense that the trustees of Roseland Park would have used the $10,000 mentioned in the article to build the golf course.  The date (1896) certainly lines up with other sources I've seen.  Thoughts?

Out of curiosity, is the obituary from the Hartford Courant?

Thanks for the help,

John

John,

That came from the New York Sun.    I'm thinking the course was probably laid out in the late 1890s, as part of determining the use of the park after the couple passed on.

Good to see you here, as well!

Eric Morrison

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2010, 06:05:14 AM »
From 1899 Official Golf Guide: WOODSTOCK GOLF CLUB.—On New England Railroad, four miles from
depot. The club uses a public course of nine holes, laid out by a few enthusiasts
in 1896. About forty players now use the links.

From 1900 Harpers Golf Guide: WOODSTOCK.
WOODSTOCK GOLF CLUB.—On New York and New England Railroad,
four miles from depot. The club uses a public course of nine holes, laid
out in ]896. There is no regular organization, the expenses being met by
voluntaiy subscriptions. The amateur record for the course, 38, by W.
Menteith. The names and distances are: 1, Starter, 136; 2, Styx, 233; 3,
Poorhouse, 252; 4, A Flat, 152; 5, Stonewall, 182; 6, Dipper, 238; 7, Ravine,
159; 8, Long Tom, 343 ; 9, Buttonwoods, 219.
It is what it is.

Jim_Kennedy

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2010, 06:53:50 AM »
Eric,
There were quite a few courses in CT. that would have fit the same general description as Woodstock's, hardly any had an 'architect' listed, but it was a different era. Places that are gone from the modern landscape, like Orford, Quaganopoxet, Shenipsit, Maple Hill, Arawana, etc., were all constructed by someone, but I think it's highly likely that many of these were also "laid out by enthusiasts". Occasionally, like at Norfolk Downs (NLE), you'll read where the "work was under the excellent supervision of Dr. A. E. Cobb", but there's no record of who he was superintending.   
There was also a wave of modernization that hit Connecticut. Places like Wee Burn and Waterbury started out with drastically different courses. Wee Burn was founded in 1897, twenty-six years prior to Emmet, and its course was laid out on "about 30 acres of land procured for the links from George Stanward, F.S. Fitch and Mrs. Charlotte F. Callender".  Waterbury was originally nine holes when it was built in 1896, although it's known who laid it out, Arthur Fenn. The Donald (Ross) didn't work his magic at Waterbury until 1922. 

Ronald,
How true.  ;D
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Mike Cirba

Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2010, 09:44:23 AM »
I love the spirit exemplified in some of these early "homegrown" efforts, lackluster as most of the courses probably were.

There is still something romantic to this day about a man with a dream to take a piece of property and turn it into something of his own creation, whether exemplified as a baseball diamond in a cornfield, ala "Field of Dreams", or the farmer in Arid, Kansas who looks across his acres of soybeans and imagines nine holes running through it, and attempts to build it himself, or with a bunch of like-minded "enthusiasts".   

JNC Lyon

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2010, 10:28:00 AM »
It sounds like 1896 is the definitive construction date for the golf course.  It was also probably laid out by committee.  There was no one individual architect.  I would still love to know if the $10,000 from Bowen's will was used for construction of the golf course.

Eric Morrison,

What sort of publications were the "Official Golf Guide" and "Harpers Golf Guide"?  I had not heard of either of them until now.  If they contain this sort of information, they could be very useful for other golf course histories.  For example, I would love to know who built the original 9 holes at Oak Hill CC on the Genesee River.  Thanks for the great help!

Mike,

Prior to 1910, it seems that a huge number of golf courses were built with the "Field of Dreams" ideology.  The concept of "18 Stakes on a Sunday afternoon" often fits firmly into that framework.  Many Golden Age architects (particularly Ross and Tillinghast) were replacing early, primitive courses built by amateur architects.  Only a few of those early Fields of Dreams (Oakmont, Myopia, Garden City) have since survived.
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ANTHONYPIOPPI

Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2010, 12:41:12 PM »
Woodstock was the first course that I played.

It dates back to 1896, and is very, very quirky. The second hole is 265 yards and is meant to play around a grass-covered mound. Now, people just drive it at the green.

When I first began playing in the early 1970s, there were sand tees with wooden sides. There used to be an incredible Punchbowl green that sat in a natural hollow of the sixth hole, I believe, that is 275 yards. It was moved, from what I was told, for safety reasons since the green was completely blind.

Substantial changes were made in the last 10 years but I have not been on the course in about five, so I really can't comment.

1 170
2 265
3 305 (straight up hill)
4 304
5 235/289 (revised hole)
6 275
7 231
8 385
9 227

2397/2451




Eric Morrison

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Re: Woodstock Golf Course, Connecticut--Calling All GCA Historians
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2010, 07:24:27 AM »
The Official Golf Guides seem to strive to be the definitive reference about all things golf in the U.S. They contain info on courses, golf associations, championships, etc. They are neat to peruse even if just for the old photos and ads. Josiah Newman was the first editor; here is the intro from the 1899 (first) edition:
Introduction.
OF the origin of Golf in America we have no
record, but it was probably brought over by the
earliest settlers, and was certainly played in
New York State two hundred and forty years
ago. In an ordinance passed by the authorities
of Fort Orange, now Albany, December 10, 1659, is
the following remarkable passage. It will be found printed
in Book A, Mortgage No. 1, in Albany County Clerk's office,
209; and it is also published in the " Laws and Ordinances
of the New Netherlands," page 367. The following is the
ordinance :—
" The W. Commissary and Commissaries of Fort Orange
" and Village of Beverwyck, having heard divers complaints
" from the Burghers of this place, against playing at Golf
" along the streets, which causes great damage to the win-
" dows of the Houses, and exposes people to the danger of
" being wounded, and is contrary to the freedom of the Public
" Streets ; Therefore their Worships, wishing to prevent the
" same, forbid all persons playing Golf in the streets, on pain
" of forfeiting fl. 25 for each person who shall be found
" doing so."
Thus, curiously enough, in America, as in Scotland four
hundred and twenty years ago, the earliest official reference
to the game is found in by-laws prohibiting it as having
become a public nuisance.
Yet it has remained for this volume to give some detailed
and classified account of the principal golf clubs in
America, where today over 150,000 people may reasonably
be set down as patrons of the Royal and Ancient Game.
These players, drawn principally from the most cultivated
classes in the community, keep in employment, exclusively
in the pursuit of golf, upwards of 35,000 men and boys, and
the game partially benefits at least double that number. No
sport whatever, and few single industries, finds labor for anything
like so many people ; it is far more than the whole
United States army when on a peace footing.
As these are conservative figures it seems reasonable to
answer the common query, "Has golf come to stay? " with
an emphatic "Yes!" for the simple reason that too much
capital is invested in the game, and too many people are
benefited thereby for the sport to pass out of existence. The
tens of thousands who have to thank golf for renewed health
and vigor today are, however, an entirely sufficient guarantee
that the sport will be handed down for many generations as
one of the greatest blessings ever introduced into this
country.
This first "Golf Guide," owing to the speed with which
new clubs have been formed the past year, is necessarily very
incomplete, yet it contains some reference to 2 golf clubs in
Alabama, 1 in Arkansas, 22 in California, 7 in Colorado,
31 in Connecticut, 1 in Delaware, 11 in Florida, 9 in Georgia,
31 in Illinois, 3 in Indiana, 5 in Iowa, 2 in Kentucky, 1 in
Louisiana, 15 in Maine, 14 in Maryland, 74 in Massachusetts,
9 in Michigan, 5 in Minnesota, 10 in Missouri, 2 in Nebraska,
18 in New Hampshire, 59 in New Jersey, 106 in New York,
7 in North Carolina, 1 in North Dakota, 13 in Ohio, 2 in
Oregon, 50 in Pennsylvania, 13 in Rhode Island, 3 in South
Carolina, 5 in Tennessee, 7 in Vermont, 10 in Virginia, 5 in
Washington, 12 in Wisconsin, 2 in West Virginia.
It is only the briefest mention I am able to give most of
these organizations, but such as the record is I. trust it may
prove of value to fellow golfers and be some help, however
slight, in binding together into one bond of fellowship all those
who take part in the Royal and Ancient Game. To the secretaries
of clubs and other officials, who have kindly furnished
the statistics, I wish to tender my warmest thanks, as also to
Laurence Curtis, ex-President of the U. S. Golf Association ;
Robert Bage Kerr, Secretary of the U. S. Golf Association ;
H.O. Tallmadge, ex-secretary, and other kind friends who
have rendered willing aid.
JOSIAH NEWMAN.

i have seen the editions from 1899-1901, and 1916-1930; I viewed them from the USGA digital archive.
It is what it is.

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