Mike Sweeney,
Sleepy Hollow, Sebonack, Fishers Island and Garden City aren't golf courses within a residential community, they're private clubs, and as such, shouldn't be compared to resort courses or gated community courses in Florida.
Try apples to apples, not apples to orangutans
Pat,
Oops, you skipped over Whipoorwill. Feel free to join my wife in saying, "Yes Mike you are right."
Sleepy, Sebonack, Fishers and Garden City were are started with real estate components.
1. I have an old friend who lives inside the gates of Sleepy with his wife and kids - in a house, not the clubhouse.
2. Fishers had a huge resort hotel attached to it, that had a mysterious fire. It was started by the Olmsted brothers who were the Toll Brothers of that era, and today you still go through the gates to get on the club property. You do realize that all of the east end of the island (houses, golf course, beach club) is the Fishers Island Club?
3. Garden City started as a public course. The golf course was built to help sell lots in Garden City. Do you need a page number to the advertisement in your Club history book that states "lots and villa plots for sale on easy terms" ?
4. Pat if the search engine worked here, I could pull up old threads where YOU questioned the placement of the Sebonack cottages.
The old dead guy courses evolved into what they are today because of wars, depressions, recessions and other long term issues. How is this not relevant to what is going on today in Florida and other places? In some way or another, real estate was factored in when they were building all theses courses, yet they all turned out great.