Please remeber that Torrey South was redesigned to be a US Open course. If your game is not quite ready for a US Open venue you will indeed have a miserable time there. If however you feel that you can flight 5 irons to targets 200 yards in the distance you might actually find this a fun place to play. There is no middle ground, there are no sets of tees, not colored red, that the average golfer will enjoy playing from. That being said, there is a definite sense of place at Torrey, it is a wonderful place to spend 4.5 hours on a sunny So. Cal. day. Like the LPGA did this year, try a parasailing journey at the very south end of the course at the Glider Port for a mere $150; you will enjoy this experience and get to see the golf course too. The North Course is a pleasant place to play but not worth over $100. If you want to drop big bucks and play an enjoyable round I would again recommend staying at the Rancho Santa Fe Inn and playing Ranch Santa Fe GC; a Max Behr course. Of course that could set you back over $600; but when you have dinner at nearby Mille Fluer, SD's best restaruant, you'll have something to brag about. The bottom line here is that SD is all about Resort Golf, which by nature is relatively easy; we did not make our reputation by punishing the 20 handicaps that want a break from the snow!