Pumpkin Ridge is very good. It may not fit the criteria for greatness by many on this site, but I have played both Witch Hollow and Ghost Creek 50x+ and they are great tests of golf. Pumpkin Ridge has hosted the Nike Tour Championship, US Amateur and the Women's US Open. They were also scheduled to host the Senior US Open until Jeld-Wen bought the sponsorship and made the Tour move the event from Scottsdale to Portland. Go play Witch Hollow from the tips and let me know if you came close to your index #. Alot of subtle challenge by Bob Cupp like the creek on #3, the angle of the green on #5, #6 is a great par 4, the green on 8, etc. I must say though #18 is an interesting hole but not one of my favorites.