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A Modest Collection of Long & Uphiill Golden Age Par 3 Tenth Holes
« on: November 07, 2009, 07:55:26 AM »

Park Club (Williamsville, NY...Colt/Allison) and Orchard Park CC (Orchard Park, NY...Travis) begin their inward nines with long, uphill par three tenth holes.  They are challenging holes with appropriate bunkering, resulting in what GCA folk like to call half-shot holes.  In reading Ran's Eastward Ho! piece, I notice that this incredible club also boasts one of these babies!  What other courses out there in the grand world of golf also have long and uphill, par 3.5 tenth holes?
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 08:34:24 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 05:38:28 PM »

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Re: A Modest Collection of Long & Uphiill Golden Age Par 3 Tenth Holes
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 07:50:14 PM »

Not uphill, but number 10 at Minneapolis Golf Club (Park/Ross) surely has to be one of those?
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 08:18:19 PM »

Quote from: David_Elvins on November 07, 2009, 08:34:24 AM
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If you've been in my group while playing this hole, you would swear it is a par 4.  Smiley 
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 09:32:31 PM »

Joe,

   Some of us only needed one at #10 Rolling Green Grin
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2009, 05:48:06 AM »

Interesting update on the 10th at Minneapolis...their website says it plays downhill...is it still brutish, like the others?  If so, we'll allow its repatriation.  Any other flat or downhill, long par three 10th holes?
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2009, 09:13:20 AM »

Lawsonia -- slightly uphill, 239 yards from the tips, to a massive green tipped back to front.
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« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2009, 09:18:37 AM »

Wow...two more and we have a front nine of these holes.  It seems to me the ultimate way of keeping a golfer honest at the turn.  Imagine these scenarios...

...Alright, pal...you're on fire on the front nine.  Let's start your back nine off with a bitch of a hole and see what you're made of!

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...Hey, fatty!  Away from the buffet...you're on the tee, which happens to be 225 downhill yards away from the green!!  Or Uphill...whatever!!  You're gonna need your best to make it!
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Re: A Modest Collection of Long & Uphiill Golden Age Par 3 Tenth Holes
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2009, 09:24:57 AM »

Chester Valley (Philadephia) has one.

I'd say the primary reason for Rolling Green's and Chester Valley's is pretty much a routing consideration or necessity.
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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2009, 09:28:56 AM »

In what sense, Tom?  Are they less than desirable holes?
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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2009, 10:21:51 AM »

"In what sense, Tom?  Are they less than desirable holes?"


Ronald:

Not at all. I just mean where the architect started them from---perhaps had to start them from, they both pretty much needed to be long par 3s. I'm basically talking about the topography of where they both are. Chester Valley's actually isn't that near the clubhouse but Rolling Green's is.
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