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They did not say when, although they did tell me updating their website was not something they did often, in fact I don't believe they've ever done it. I don't recall discussing GCGC, but we did discuss Youngstown and that is another change: HH Barker design.
Did you get the last part of my post? Bob had no use for people who concealed and hoarded information, and that is putting it lightly."
Tom MacWood:
Very interesting! That is very much the dual personality post---those two paragraphs!
In the first paragraph, which is otherwise reasonable, you didn't answer my question on WHEN you asked them to change their information on Travis and Ekwanok. On that same issue of Ekwanok, I can actually see where BobL and KevnM may've relied on an earlier Ekwanok history book that fixated on Travis (at least so you say) and not done all that much independent or additional research on the subject of Travis and Ekwanok----eg after-all he (they) were writing a biography of Travis and not just a history of a single golf club but writing a book on the entire career of Travis which certainly had a lot more to do with things than just golf architectural history (a particular myopia of yours, in my opinon, I might add).
In your second paragraph, I have no idea at all what the hell you're trying to suggest. Wayne and I had a great relationship with Bob Labance and KevinM on a number of courses and projects of his around here, which we researched together on, including some of the ones Flynn worked on.
Bob Labbance was a REAL historian and a total professional researcher with the expected ethics of a genuine researcher/analyst/reporter completely unlike you and some of the shennigans you've pulled off such as that phone call and con-job you did on that township manager of the township George Crump lived in who said he would sue you if you came anywhere near Merchantville NH!
Not to mention you never even had the taste or decency to inform Pine Valley about what you were doing BEFORE you produced it. In my world, that tactic and approach of yours will always stink! REALLY STINK!
In my book, it would have been completely unimaginable for Bob Labbance to ever touch a subject like the history of a golf club and golf course without FIRST establishing a really close personal relationship with them as he always did and you never have. So don't talk to me about information and me and Wayne and you in the same sentence for GOD's SAKES! Your inability and/or unwillingness to establish a relationship with a club or subject you are seriously interested in and researching and writing about would have been completely repugnant to Bob Labbance, as it should be to any serious historian and as it certainly is to me.
I don't know of a single competent researcher/historian who approaches a subject WITHOUT going directly to the source (among other avenues) as you do. I am never going to condone it support it or endorse it and if any of the contributors and viewers of this website considered this essential issue serioiusly, I doubt any of them ever would either.