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Bill Brightly

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #175 on: October 28, 2009, 01:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Alex Miller on October 28, 2009, 01:13:17 PM
Hey Boo Bird,

While your spamming our thread care to give us some thoughts on nice picks!  ;)

OK, but it will take me a few minutes to switch from Jet fan mode to Giant Fan (recent drafts.)
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JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #176 on: October 28, 2009, 01:27:28 PM »
Seth Raynor--Mountain Lake (FL), Country Club of Fairfield, Fox Chapel.

Team Name: "95.1, The Fox Chapel".  There is a radio station in Rochester called 95.1, The Fox.  We added "chapel" to the name on the way down to Pittsburgh.
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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #177 on: October 28, 2009, 01:30:25 PM »
Good pix JNC!  So then robb rigg gets two sets, then you are up again!
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Patrick Hodgdon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #178 on: October 28, 2009, 01:31:28 PM »
Quote from: Rob Rigg on October 28, 2009, 11:50:58 AM
Eric Smith - Well done - you took my next pick - those are three great MacKenzie courses!
Jim - Nice work there as well - surprised that Alison's great work in Japan lasted this long.

I have a meeting in a few so I'll throw out my three just in case Mr Lyon takes one -

1. Hanse -Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club
2. Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville (I need some links courses)

Rob's picks were here so JNC is up again.
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Rob Rigg

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #179 on: October 28, 2009, 01:32:44 PM »
Don't think either of these GCAs have been used yet - yeah, bizzles, that's how I'm rolling. :)

1. Hanse -Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club
2. Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville (I need some links courses)

These are my two - I'll use this one next time around because no one else will - this guy is way to unknown :)

3. AV Macan - Cal Club, Royal Colwood, Shaughnessy GC
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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #180 on: October 28, 2009, 01:34:01 PM »
Great.  May we please have the list on this page please.

Actually I was looking into AV Macan because I wrote about him a couple years ago...but i probly won't pick him, but have backups in case.  Cali Club looks like a great pick...but again, it's up in the air...
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Patrick Hodgdon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #181 on: October 28, 2009, 01:37:52 PM »
Round 1:
1. Jud Tigerman: MacKenzie - Crystal Downs, Cypress Point, Palmetto
2. Jaeger Kovich: CBM - The National, Shinnecock, Chicago Golf
3. Jay Flemma: Strantz - MPCC Shore, Bulls Bay, Tobacco Road
4. JC Jones: Ross - Pinehurst #2, Seminole, Wannamoisett
5. Mac Plumart: Dye - Kiawah Ocean, Pete Dye Golf Club of WV, and The Golf Club
6. Alex Miller: Tillinghast - San Francisco Golf Club, Bethpage Black, Winged Foot (West)
7. Ron Montesano: Perry Maxwell - Old Town Club, Southern Hills and Prairie Dunes
8. Eric Smith: Old Tom - Royal County Down, Muirfield, Royal Dornoch
9. Tim Bert: Doak - Pacific Dunes, Ballyneal, Old Mac
10. Kalen Braley: William Flynn - Philly Country Club, The Country Club (Shinny already picked so no soup for you!)
11. Patrick Hodgdon - Coore & Crenshaw - Sand Hills, Friars Head, Bandon Trails
12. Jim Colton: HS Colt - Pine Valley, Royal Portrush, Sunningdale (Old)
13. Dell Sims: Raynor - Camargo, Shoreacres, Yeaman's Hall
14. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Oak Hill East/West, Teugega
15. Rob Rigg: Thompson - Highlands Links, St George's, Banff Springs

Round 2:
16. Rob Rigg: Thomas - Riviera, LACC - North, Bel Air
17. JNC Lyon: Emmet - Leatherstocking, Garden City, Seawane
18. Dell Sims: MacKenzie -  Augusta, Royal Melbourne, Pasatiempo
19. Jim Colton Doak - Barnbougle, Rock Creek, Sebonack
20. Patrick Hodgdon: Hugh Wilson - Merion East & West, Cobb's Creek
21. Kalen Braley: Mike Young - Longshadow, Wolf Creek (GA), Southern Hills (GA)
22. Tim Bert: Mike DeVries - Kingsley, Greywalls, Mines
23. Eric Smith: Tom Simpson - Ballybunion (Old), Cruden Bay, Morfontaine
24. Ron M: Walter Travis - Yahnundasis, Ekwanok, Lookout Point
25. Alex Miller: Raynor - Yale, Mid-Ocean, Fishers Island
26. Mac Plumart: Fazio - Shadow Creek, Gozzer Ranch, The Green Monkey
27. JC Jones: God--The Old Course
28. Jay Flemma:  ross - oakland hills, white bear, the balsams (panorama)
29. Jaeger Kovich: Colt - Swinley Forrest, and St George's Hill (Muirfield already picked)
30. Jud Tigerman: Old Tom - prestwick, lahinch, machrihanish

Round 3
31. Jud Tigerman: Coore/Crenshaw - austin golf club, old sandwich, lost farm
32. Jaeger Kovich: - James Braid - Carnoustie, Gleneagles, and Royal Aberdeen
33. Jay Flemma:  Tilly...Philly Cricket (Wissahickon), Sleepy Hollow, Quaker Ridge
34. JC Jones: Colt - Colt - Rye, Toronto, St Andrews Eden
35. Mac Plumart: Willie Fernie - Troon, Turnberry (Ailisa), Shiskine.
36. Alex Miller: Jack - Cabo del Sol, Muifield Village, and Harbourtown
37. Ron Montesano: Ross - Charles River, Aronomink, CC Rochester
38. Eric Smith: MacKenzie - Kingston Heath, New South Wales, Royal Adelaide
39. Tim Bert: Ross - Holston Hills, Beverly, Newport
40. Kalen Braley: Engh - Black Rock, Sanctuary, Lakota Canyon
41. Patrick Hodgdon: Doak - Cape Kidnappers, Bay of Dreams, and Lost Dunes
42. Jim Colton: CH Alison - Hirono, Kawana, Naruo
43. Dell Sims: RT Jones:  Valderamma, Peachtree GC, Spyglass Hill
44. JNC_Lyon: Raynor--Mountain Lake (FL), Country Club of Fairfield, Fox Chapel.
45. Rob Rigg: Hanse - Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club

Round 4:
46. Rob Rigg: Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville
47. JNC_Lyon
48. Dell Sims:
49. Jim Colton:
50. Patrick Hodgdon:


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Bill Brightly

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #182 on: October 28, 2009, 01:50:03 PM »
MacKenzie #1: solid picks, almost chalk, curious that he left off Augusta...

Macdonald #2 with NGLA is excellent

Stranz #3: way too early

Old Tom at #8 is a steal by Eric. RCD, Muirfield and Royal Dornach, yikes!

I like the Doak picks at 9, Flynn at 10 C &C at 11, but....

Colt and PV, Portrush and Sunningdale at #12 is another huge steal

Excellent second round picks by Eric at #23: BB, Cruden Bay

Alex steals Raynor's Fishers Island and Yale at pick  #25

Jaeger getting Carnoustie, Gleneagles and Royal Aberdeen at #33 was a great pick,

Jay made two  great Tilly picks at #33 before getting cute with Sleepy Hollow

Nice Ross picks by Ron at #37, especially Aronomink

I liked Dell's RTJ picks at #44

I have great hopes for the kid at pick #44, guess school gets out at 3 PM :)

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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #183 on: October 28, 2009, 01:54:15 PM »
I was "filling a need" instead of taking the sexy pick ;D

You gotta have a solid O-line to protect the QB 8)  I got what I wanted.  Play Bulls bay and MPCC and maybe you'll change your mind!  I think it was a good "reach."  NO guarantee he would have been available at 28.
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JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #184 on: October 28, 2009, 02:05:25 PM »
Class all morning, but I finished at 1:10 so now I am ready for GCA drafting in between research on the Mexican-American War.

That Alison pick crushed my draft strategy, but I've come back strong:

Ross - Essex County Club (MA), Plainfield, Country Club of Buffalo (are the quarry holes better than Merion's?  Maybe...)
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Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #185 on: October 28, 2009, 02:07:36 PM »
I think we may need to go more than 6 rounds to make people stretch a bit....
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #186 on: October 28, 2009, 02:08:14 PM »
No question that more of CCB is in quarry than Merion and the holes, therefore, are more varied at CCB; however...

the quarry at Merion is truly where the wild things are...the one at CCB is too pretty these days.
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JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #187 on: October 28, 2009, 02:12:22 PM »
Quote from: Ronald Montesano on October 28, 2009, 02:08:14 PM
No question that more of CCB is in quarry than Merion and the holes, therefore, are more varied at CCB; however...

the quarry at Merion is truly where the wild things are...the one at CCB is too pretty these days.

Agreed.  Don't they cut fairway down in the quarry on 11 and 12?  That's weak sauce.  When I was at the Walker Cup I expected to see Dinosaurs roaming around in front of the 17th tee.  However, the 6th at CCB puts its quarry holes over the top.

I agree that we need to extend the draft for two reasons:

1) There are some classic Golden Age architects that have not been selected yet.
2) This draft is too much fun.

Ten Rounds?
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Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #188 on: October 28, 2009, 02:15:03 PM »
10 sounds about right....
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Jim Colton

Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #189 on: October 28, 2009, 02:19:34 PM »
Round 1:
1. Jud Tigerman: MacKenzie - Crystal Downs, Cypress Point, Palmetto
2. Jaeger Kovich: CBM - The National, Shinnecock, Chicago Golf
3. Jay Flemma: Strantz - MPCC Shore, Bulls Bay, Tobacco Road
4. JC Jones: Ross - Pinehurst #2, Seminole, Wannamoisett
5. Mac Plumart: Dye - Kiawah Ocean, Pete Dye Golf Club of WV, and The Golf Club
6. Alex Miller: Tillinghast - San Francisco Golf Club, Bethpage Black, Winged Foot (West)
7. Ron Montesano: Perry Maxwell - Old Town Club, Southern Hills and Prairie Dunes
8. Eric Smith: Old Tom - Royal County Down, Muirfield, Royal Dornoch
9. Tim Bert: Doak - Pacific Dunes, Ballyneal, Old Mac
10. Kalen Braley: William Flynn - Philly Country Club, The Country Club (Shinny already picked so no soup for you!)
11. Patrick Hodgdon - Coore & Crenshaw - Sand Hills, Friars Head, Bandon Trails
12. Jim Colton: HS Colt - Pine Valley, Royal Portrush, Sunningdale (Old)
13. Dell Sims: Raynor - Camargo, Shoreacres, Yeaman's Hall
14. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Oak Hill East/West, Teugega
15. Rob Rigg: Thompson - Highlands Links, St George's, Banff Springs

Round 2:
16. Rob Rigg: Thomas - Riviera, LACC - North, Bel Air
17. JNC Lyon: Emmet - Leatherstocking, Garden City, Seawane
18. Dell Sims: MacKenzie -  Augusta, Royal Melbourne, Pasatiempo
19. Jim Colton Doak - Barnbougle, Rock Creek, Sebonack
20. Patrick Hodgdon: Hugh Wilson - Merion East & West, Cobb's Creek
21. Kalen Braley: Mike Young - Longshadow, Wolf Creek (GA), Southern Hills (GA)
22. Tim Bert: Mike DeVries - Kingsley, Greywalls, Mines
23. Eric Smith: Tom Simpson - Ballybunion (Old), Cruden Bay, Morfontaine
24. Ron M: Walter Travis - Yahnundasis, Ekwanok, Lookout Point
25. Alex Miller: Raynor - Yale, Mid-Ocean, Fishers Island
26. Mac Plumart: Fazio - Shadow Creek, Gozzer Ranch, The Green Monkey
27. JC Jones: God--The Old Course
28. Jay Flemma:  ross - oakland hills, white bear, the balsams (panorama)
29. Jaeger Kovich: Colt - Swinley Forrest, and St George's Hill (Muirfield already picked)
30. Jud Tigerman: Old Tom - prestwick, lahinch, machrihanish

Round 3
31. Jud Tigerman: Coore/Crenshaw - austin golf club, old sandwich, lost farm
32. Jaeger Kovich: - James Braid - Carnoustie, Gleneagles, and Royal Aberdeen
33. Jay Flemma:  Tilly...Philly Cricket (Wissahickon), Sleepy Hollow, Quaker Ridge
34. JC Jones: Colt - Colt - Rye, Toronto, St Andrews Eden
35. Mac Plumart: Willie Fernie - Troon, Turnberry (Ailisa), Shiskine.
36. Alex Miller: Jack - Cabo del Sol, Muifield Village, and Harbourtown
37. Ron Montesano: Ross - Charles River, Aronomink, CC Rochester
38. Eric Smith: MacKenzie - Kingston Heath, New South Wales, Royal Adelaide
39. Tim Bert: Ross - Holston Hills, Beverly, Newport
40. Kalen Braley: Engh - Black Rock, Sanctuary, Lakota Canyon
41. Patrick Hodgdon: Doak - Cape Kidnappers, Bay of Dreams, and Lost Dunes
42. Jim Colton: CH Alison - Hirono, Kawana, Naruo
43. Dell Sims: RT Jones:  Valderamma, Peachtree GC, Spyglass Hill
44. JNC_Lyon: Raynor--Mountain Lake (FL), Country Club of Fairfield, Fox Chapel.
45. Rob Rigg: Hanse - Castle Stuart, Rustic Canyon, Boston Golf Club

Round 4:
46. Rob Rigg: Hackett - Carne, Eniscrone, Waterville
47. JNC_Lyon: Ross - Essex County Club (MA), Plainfield, Country Club of Buffalo
48. Dell Sims: Jack Neville - Pebble Beach, Pacific Grove
49. Jim Colton: Pete Dye - Casa de Campo, TPC Sawgrass, The Honors Course
50. Patrick Hodgdon: Mackenzie: Valley Club of Montecito, Jockey Club (Cancha Colorada), Titirangi
51. Kalen Braley: ON THE CLOCK
52. Tim Bert:
53. Eric Smith:

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Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #190 on: October 28, 2009, 03:11:20 PM »
Did anyone PM Kalen?  He's dragging his Utah feet again!!
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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #191 on: October 28, 2009, 03:35:18 PM »
ten seems a bit much.  How about lucky 7?

but you're right, this is too much fun.

Where are the trades???!!!
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JC Jones

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #192 on: October 28, 2009, 03:37:39 PM »
I've got picks lined up for at least another 3 if not 4 rounds.  Just sayin....
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Ronald Montesano

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #193 on: October 28, 2009, 03:40:48 PM »
3 hours and counting...Kalen?  Kalen?
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JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #194 on: October 28, 2009, 03:43:39 PM »
Jay:

Plainfield for Sleepy Hollow?
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Kalen Braley

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #195 on: October 28, 2009, 03:45:10 PM »
Sorry if work got in the way of a Fantasy Draft where there aren't even any winners!!!   ;D  ;)

Ok here is my pick.

Jeff Brauer - Giants Ridge, Sand Creek Station, Wilderness at Fortune Bay
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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #196 on: October 28, 2009, 03:51:44 PM »
Quote from: JNC_Lyon on October 28, 2009, 03:43:39 PM
Jay:

Plainfield for Sleepy Hollow?

Of the Tillie's I have, Sleepy Hollow is my fave.  I won't trade any of your Rosses for Sleepy Hollow, but I will trade The Balsams (Panorama) for Plainfield...interested?  A Ross for a Ross?
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JNC Lyon

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #197 on: October 28, 2009, 03:54:03 PM »
Jay,

No on that Balsams trade.  Plainfield is a premier Ross course.  Just can't do it.

Kalen brings up a good point, maybe we should devise a winner system.  My suggestion: GCA-wide vote on who has selected the best courses based on the criteria in the first post.  Thoughts?
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Jud_T

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #198 on: October 28, 2009, 03:55:54 PM »
sounds like a plan...
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Jay Flemma

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Re: GCA Mock Fantasy Draft
« Reply #199 on: October 28, 2009, 03:56:29 PM »
Nah...that would devolve into fights and a popularity contest...maybe Jim should send it to a panel of OUTSIDE experts like the SI roundtable to get their opinions?
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