Public Road that is in play on a golf course

[Tim Martin]

The tee shot on the first hole at Vesper CC is up and over the entrance road to a gettable green for big hitters provided they are afforded a good bounce. The hole is 290 yards so you have the option of how you want to play the hole. A fun opener for sure.

[Bret Lawrence]

You have to play over the entrance road at Yale on 10 tee shot.

1 tee shot at Shennecossett plays across Plant Street. Approach to # 2 plays over railroad tracks.

Hole 10 at Shennecossett also has a tee shot across Plant Street.


Hole 12 at Wyantenuck Country Club in Great Barrington, MA
Hole 2 at Highland Golf Club in Shelton, CT
Hole 4 at Farmingbury Hills Golf Course in Wolcott, CT
all have tee shots crossing a main road.


The 3rd hole at Pine Orchard Yacht & Country Club in Branford, CT has an approach shot to a Par 5 crossing a public road.

[Pete_Pittock]

is Pebble Beach 16/17 instead of 15/16?

[Doug Hodgson]

Not quite a "public" road but the 15th at The Country Club plays across a road. 


Already mentioned but the 18th at Scarboro actually requires a pretty good strike from the back tee to clear the road.  That road seems to be pretty busy in fact and is very much in play.


There is an active rail line that runs right through the middle of Royal Adelaide.


The now last hole at Banff is a sharp dogleg right par 5 around the entrance road.  It is possible I'm sure to bounce your drive off that road and just have a flip wedge for your second shot.


The entrance road at Royal Montreal is public for part of its length.  It borders at a distance holes 5-8 of the Red Course, most wouldn't consider it to be in play at all but I've managed to find ways to bring it into play on all of them

[SPDB]

In addition to the approach to the 3rd at Pine Orchard, the tee shot at the 4th also crosses a road.


Some others from memory:


Prouts Neck (14th)?
Bald Peak Colony
Fishers Island (6th and 13th - although calling these roads "public" might be a bit of a stretch).
Rockaway Hunting Club (the 5th feels like you're hitting over a road)

[Joe Bausch]

Quogue Field Club

1st and 9th holes
The issue of the road was how I started working with Quogue

Very cool place, Ian!


Photos for those that want to take a look:


http://www80.homepage.villanova.edu/joseph.bausch/images/albums/Quogue/

[Scott Weersing]

So the Seth Raynor/Lester George course, Cavalier Golf and Yacht Club in Virginia Beach has a road on the 12th hole. It is a dogleg left. And then the 13th hole is back over the road again.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/vFV5iG28uDF9SaKG6


Here is a photo I took: https://photos.app.goo.gl/vFV5iG28uDF9SaKG6[size=78%]





And here is a overview:


https://course.bluegolf.com/bluegolf/course/course/cavaliergyacht/aerial.htm#[/size]

[Chris_Blakely]

Glen Brook GC Stroudsburg, PA


Greenbrier Old White 7th hole Back tee


Washington G&CC Washington, PA
First tee


Irem Temple CC Dallas,PA
First Tee

[Terry Thornton]

I, of all people, should be wary before questioning whether any feature on the 1st at RDGC is "in play", as you know, but is the road there in play in a meaningful way?

As per Rich's examples, I think it is if you're nervous or bad enough.
I first saw it 'engaged' watching a first round of a Carnegie. Player hit first two tee shots out of bounds, his third tee shot ran along the ground, hit the far kerb and rebounded to finish 1 metre in front of the player. For a total of 5, playing 36 hole stroke, he had advanced his ball a metre

[Greg Chambers]

San Ganbriel Country Club—the tee shot on the 18th has to clear a relatively busy Hermosa Drive.

[James Boon]

Trevose 1st and 18th


I played in a comp last Sept and was ready to hit my first drive starting to swing back and was stopped by the starter abruptly because a bleedin' car driver wouldn't stop 


Thanks to the car driver for putting me off as my first drive went at least 40 yards right


Cheers
Ben

Ben, so the car putting you off was the cause of your wayward drive???


Most of the examples quoted that I know, you can see the road. The real surprise when I played Berkhamstead last year was that you could play the hole without knowing you were teeing off over a road on the 9th, as its in a valley and obscured by vegetation!


A few others spring to mind where you play across a road, but most arent large roads at all and will have minimal use, but still pose dangers if the drivers aren't golfers:


- Teignmouth, an Alister MacKenzie course in Devon, 12th and 15th (first time I visited the area was quite foggy and I drove straight over this road without knowing I was driving over a gold course!
- Rye, 12th
- Is the road on the 2nd at Sunningdale a private or a public road?
- The 8th at Hunstanton crosses a tarmac road, but I think most people park before the course to get to the beech so its more of a footpath really?
- Alwoodley, 17th
- Ganton, someone mentioned 18th but you play over it on the 17th as well.
- Fortrose & Rosemarkie, the par 3 at the far end by Channonry Point
- Tain, 1st and 18th


Cheers,


James

[Wayne Wiggins, Jr.]

Paging Pat Craig...


Don't recall which hole, but at White Bear Yacht Club there's a tee shot from the back tee over a road.

[Tommy Williamsen]

Farmington in VA. In fact in plays over and along a number of roads.
Doesn't the tee shot on number five at St. Enodoc cross a road?

[James Boon]

Farmington in VA. In fact in plays over and along a number of roads.
Doesn't the tee shot on number five at St. Enodoc cross a road?

Tommy,


3rd, 5th and 15th all cross that road at St Enodoc, I'd forgotten about it. Again its not a big public road, and may be a private road, but there appears to be access to a number of houses, so every chance visitors wont have a clue they are driving across a golf course...


Cheers,


James

[Chuck Glowacki]

Quogue Field Club

[Chris_Blakely]

Skytop Lodge Skytop, PA plans over a public road on one of the holes, been a long time since I played there.

East Palestine CC East Palestine, OH 6th hole tee shot plays over a public road

Oak Tree CC West Middlesex, PA 15th hole tee shot plays over a public road

[Bob Montle]

The short 9th hole par four on the nine hole Machrie course on the Isle of Arran requires a lay-up drive and then a blind wedge to the green tucked close to the road.  This course is short but very much fun, and quirkier the N. Berwick!

Yes, the island is Arran, and the course is not THE Machrie

[Blake Conant]

Thanks for all the responses.  Hearing every way a road can interact with golf has helped me better define what I'm looking for.  Many courses seem to have one tee shot over a road that doesn't really come into play, but about 20 courses fit this specific criteria of "in residential or urban areas and have a public road that crosses a fairway."  That seems to best relate to the problems of Field Club of Omaha.


I realize there are more examples out there I don't know about or we haven't discussed, but I feel fairly confident saying Field Club of Omaha has as many road crossings in a fairway of any course in America.  Not making a judgment on whether that's good or bad, but it's nice to have a baseline. 

[Guy Nicholson]

Muskoka Lakes GCC near Port Carling, Ont., which is usually credited as Stanley Thompson's first solo design, crosses Ferndale Road six times mid-hole: once on a par 3, twice on a par 5 and three times on a par 4. On half those holes, the road is 150 to 250 yards off the tee. They've been talking about rerouting the road for years. I used to drive it twice a day en route to work in the back shop.

[Blake Conant]

I'll have to take your word on # of road crossings at Muskoka. I just tried google mapping it and naturally there's a blanket of snow covering the course!

[Greg Hohman]

Eight carries (two on one hole) by my count at Bob O’Connor, fka Schenley Park, in Pittsburgh PA:

http://www.thebobgc.com/scorecard/

OT: Although the course's website cites Mark Ormison, the architect was, I've read, George Ormiston. Course opened in 1902 (according to a site that got the architect wrong).

[Guy Nicholson]

I'll have to take your word on # of road crossings at Muskoka. I just tried google mapping it and naturally there's a blanket of snow covering the course!

Here's a better time of year:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/guynick/45950448465/in/dateposted-ff/lightbox/

[James Bennett]

Pasatiempo #2 - isn't the entrance road just below the tee?
Alwoodley #17 - is it a road or a public walkway?
Royal Adelaide has the entrance road across the 18th - occasionally a random cyclist working off their iphone apps goes through, having come in via the railway line.
Royal Adelaide does of course play across an active railway line - not a public road, but a suburban passenger train line.  #2 plays across it and #14 from the back tees does as well.

[Jon Wiggett]

James,


the road at Alwoodley is a public road. To be honest there are so many examples in the UK it seems almost pointless to start listing them.

[Jake Marvin]

James-


2 at Pasa only plays over the road from the college tournament tees, from which it's almost 500 yards. The daily play tees are all across the road.




Cape Arundel comes to mind, it crosses the entrance road at 7, 11, and 18, and 4, 5, and 11 all play to greens close to enough to the public road to make one uncomfortable.