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I don't know, please tell us, or if you wish turn this thread into some kind of childish game. You often turn these threads into a free for all when you are not confident of your information, and that seems to the be the case here."
Tom MacWood:
This is no childish game and either is this thread which started well over a year ago and was started by you, I might add, in some attempt to prove Willie Campbell laid out the original 1894 nine at Myopia in the spring of 1894 rather than the three Myopia members (Appleton, Merrill and Gardner) who the club's records of that time record laid out the original nine holes in the early spring of 1894.
I have asked you about a dozen times to try to explain where all the holes of the original 1894 nine were. You have refused to attempt to answer that question about a dozen times over the last year and more and the reason has been obvious----eg you just don't know because you've never been to this golf club or researched its early history at the golf club via the club‘s own records from that time. I have merely asked you to answer that question to establish the fact that you either do or don't know where some of those holes were on the original 1894 nine hole course.
So now we know that you didn't know, and apparently still don’t know judging from your last post of today, and that that was the reason you refused to attempt to answer that question a dozen times in the last year and more.
Therefore, I will explain to you where those three holes were (albeit not exactly what they were because there is no known record of what they were extant today that I’m aware of or that Weeks was aware of) that have heretofore been unaccounted for on the 1894 nine by everyone other than me (I explained this to Myopia a year or two ago).
Those three 1894 holes were almost entirely on Dr S.A. Hopkins property and they are named in that article above "Miles River," "Shooting Box," and "Track." From "Track" the next hole was "School" which is today the 8th hole and was the 2nd hole on Leeds' "Long Nine" which was used for the 1898 US Open. There were no holes in play on the Long Nine on Dr S.A. Hopkins property. The three holes that replaced those three unaccounted for holes on the original 1894 nine (Miles River, Shooting Box, Track) on the Long Nine are "Orient", "High" and "Home"----#7, #8, #9 on the Long Nine and #14, #15 and #16 on the eighteen hole course Leeds developed and was used for the 1901.
Again, this proves you really have never understood Myopia’s architectural history and the differences between the original 1894 nine hole course and the Long Nine that Leeds developed and was used for the 1898 US Open. It appears you still don’t understand it or refuse to accept the facts of Myopia’s early architectural history! However, there it is above for you to consider and hopefully understand. But if you still choose to deny it I’m frankly not aware of anyone who cares if you deny it.
By the way, although Dr S.A. Hopkins’s land was used for some holes on the 1894 nine, his land was not used for holes with the Long Nine. However when Leeds developed the eighteen hole course in 1899 and 1900 the club bought Dr. Hopkins’ land and it is today the green end of #4, #5, #6 and most of #7!
So, there you have the three iterations of the courses of Myopia Hunt Club from 1894 until today----eg 1. The original 1894 nine laid out by Appleton, Merrill and Gardner (apparently with Campbell helping them somehow after it was routed), 2. The Long Nine developed by Herbert Leeds and, 3. The full eighteen hole course developed by Leeds, in play in 1900, and the same course in its entirety that is still there today.