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...hasn't this week made it perfectly clear the US Open should ALWAYS be contested in California? We can pretty well guarantee no rain in mid-June.
If Mike Weir could putt, he would have won this thing by maybe 8 shots. Never seen a pro miss that many within what, 6 feet? Aiy.
Michael Whitaker, if you speak to him, please pass along a hearty well done.
Glover has debunked the adage that you can't win the tournament in the first round, but you can lose it.
Quote from: David Stamm on June 22, 2009, 01:50:16 PMGlover has debunked the adage that you can't win the tournament in the first round, but you can lose it. David,Glover shot 69 in the first round; he shot 64 in the second round. Congratulations to Glover. With a few exceptions, the play wasn't too inspiring today--it seemed like the players were worn out. Some pretty poor short(ish) putts from Mickelson.
Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.
Quote from: John Kirk on June 22, 2009, 01:33:22 PMNot sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge? Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again. That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin. Good stuff I thought.
Quote from: Bill_McBride on June 22, 2009, 03:23:17 PMQuote from: John Kirk on June 22, 2009, 01:33:22 PMNot sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge? Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again. That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin. Good stuff I thought.Bill:Do you think two holes on the back nine, including the finisher, that require:-- a downhill wedge shot;and-- a 6-iron/9-iron strategyare worthy of the final round of the US Open?
Quote from: Bill_McBride on June 22, 2009, 03:23:17 PMQuote from: John Kirk on June 22, 2009, 01:33:22 PMNot sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge? Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again. That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin. Good stuff I thought. Bill, Again you have shown great knowledge about the game. Shorter may not equate to easier. Anthony
Quote from: Phil McDade on June 22, 2009, 03:35:59 PMQuote from: Bill_McBride on June 22, 2009, 03:23:17 PMQuote from: John Kirk on June 22, 2009, 01:33:22 PMNot sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge? Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again. That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin. Good stuff I thought.Bill:Do you think two holes on the back nine, including the finisher, that require:-- a downhill wedge shot;and-- a 6-iron/9-iron strategyare worthy of the final round of the US Open?Yes. That is as much a test of ball striking and course management skills as hitting long irons into rough surrounded concrete greens, the usual US Open exam. I think the US Open has been much more fun to watch the last few years, starting at Oakmont, because of this change in philosophy.Those delicate shots require as much nerve as the other parts of the repertoire. And everybody has to be able to hit them.
Quote from: Anthony Gray on June 22, 2009, 03:34:36 PMQuote from: Bill_McBride on June 22, 2009, 03:23:17 PMQuote from: John Kirk on June 22, 2009, 01:33:22 PMNot sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile. Everybody putted from approximately the same place. Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt. Everybody made 4.John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge? Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again. That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin. Good stuff I thought. Bill, Again you have shown great knowledge about the game. Shorter may not equate to easier. AnthonyAnthony, you are such a suck up.Kalen and Garland