Bethpage/East Coast/NY Bashing...just plain BS

[George Pazin]

...hasn't this week made it perfectly clear the US Open should ALWAYS be contested in California?  We can pretty well guarantee no rain in mid-June.   

Yeah, but can you guarantee sweat-rolling-down-your-back humidity?

[Tom Huckaby]

Sweeney, you dog... yes we can have fog.

I am a poet and I know it.


 

[John Kirk]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Mickelson to 5 feet from 229 yards on #13.  BIG play.

[Steve Lapper]

GO PHIL!!!!

The hell with every one else

But if not, go Lucas,,,we like our first time winners to be literate and fans of history!!

[John Kirk]

I'm smelling a playoff.  More golf on TV!

[J Sadowsky]

If Mike Weir could putt, he would have won this thing by maybe 8 shots.  Never seen a pro miss that many within what, 6 feet?  Aiy.

You misspelled "Tiger Woods."  Weir's been awful off the tee, too - just hit a shot unplayable so he could tee off for his 3rd shot.

[John Kirk]

The Iceman makes another big play.  How about David Duval?

It is not OK for fans to yell encouragement to Phil Mickelson before the club has struck the ball.  Sorry New York fan, but that is bullshit.

[Steve Lapper]

John,


You are absolutely right about any premature vocal support...however, the y asked Tiger exactly about that and he said they were timing it just fine. TV does have a meaningful audio/video discrepancy, so maybe it isn't as bad as it appears???

[John Kirk]

Yes, possibly. It did not seem to affect him.  Still, there are a handful of overzealous fans.

Six players within one shot with three holes to go.  Wow!

[Kalen Braley]

DD, 3 birds in a row...what a finish this is going to be!!!

[John Kirk]

Glover sticks it on #16, Mickelson bogeys #17...I say the big play that everybody remembers is still coming...

[Bill_McBride]

Congrats to Lucas Glover, a great win!  Go Clemson Tigers!

Where were those flat greens everybody was bitching about?  Seemed like every cup was cut in a ticklish spot today.  Gotta feel bad for Rickie Barnes but his swing couldn't handle the pressure.

[John Kirk]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

Congrats to Lucas Glover.  The end was a bit anticlimactic but the morning was captivating all around.  Glover played like a pro down the stretch, and made the one big play he needed.

[George Pazin]

Pretty amusing that after all those posts and all that b@#$in', the winning score was -4, and only 4 guys broke par.

Congrats, Lucas, you earned it.

Michael Whitaker, if you speak to him, please pass along a hearty well done.

[Mike Sweeney]

Michael Whitaker, if you speak to him, please pass along a hearty well done.

More importantly, can he get us on BB, that phone system is a bear!

[David Stamm]

Glover has debunked the adage that you can't win the tournament in the first round, but you can lose it.

[Tim Pitner]

Glover has debunked the adage that you can't win the tournament in the first round, but you can lose it.

David,

Glover shot 69 in the first round; he shot 64 in the second round. 

Congratulations to Glover.  With a few exceptions, the play wasn't too inspiring today--it seemed like the players were worn out.  Some pretty poor short(ish) putts from Mickelson. 

[David Stamm]

Glover has debunked the adage that you can't win the tournament in the first round, but you can lose it.

David,

Glover shot 69 in the first round; he shot 64 in the second round. 

Congratulations to Glover.  With a few exceptions, the play wasn't too inspiring today--it seemed like the players were worn out.  Some pretty poor short(ish) putts from Mickelson. 

Tim, I was more referring to the fact that he had played his first two rounds on Friday (and part of Sat), when alot of players were caught in the wrong side of the pairings due to the weather. I agree Glover played great, early on. He just rode in his scores from rounds one and two. I'm not saying that it makes his win illegitmate, but I think in this unusual Open, he (and almost Barnes) won because of what he did early thereby throwing the afore mentioned adage out the window. I would have liked to have seen the winner play great in the final round when the pressure is at it's highest coming down the strecth, but a win is a win.

[Bill_McBride]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

[Anthony Gray]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

  Bill,

  Again you have shown great knowledge about the game. Shorter may not equate to easier.

  Anthony

[Phil McDade]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

Bill:

Do you think two holes on the back nine, including the finisher, that require:

-- a downhill wedge shot;

and

-- a 6-iron/9-iron strategy

are worthy of the final round of the US Open?

[Bill_McBride]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

Bill:

Do you think two holes on the back nine, including the finisher, that require:

-- a downhill wedge shot;

and

-- a 6-iron/9-iron strategy

are worthy of the final round of the US Open?

Yes.  That is as much a test of ball striking and course management skills as hitting long irons into rough surrounded concrete greens, the usual US Open exam.  I think the US Open has been much more fun to watch the last few years, starting at Oakmont, because of this change in philosophy.

Those delicate shots require as much nerve as the other parts of the repertoire. 
And everybody has to be able to hit them.

[Bill_McBride]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

  Bill,

  Again you have shown great knowledge about the game. Shorter may not equate to easier.

  Anthony

Anthony, you are such a suck up.

Kalen and Garland

[Phil McDade]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

Bill:

Do you think two holes on the back nine, including the finisher, that require:

-- a downhill wedge shot;

and

-- a 6-iron/9-iron strategy

are worthy of the final round of the US Open?

Yes.  That is as much a test of ball striking and course management skills as hitting long irons into rough surrounded concrete greens, the usual US Open exam.  I think the US Open has been much more fun to watch the last few years, starting at Oakmont, because of this change in philosophy.

Those delicate shots require as much nerve as the other parts of the repertoire. 
And everybody has to be able to hit them.

Bill:

I can't imagine the players in this year's Open thought the 14th hole wedge shot was as difficult as the shots you see at the 10th at WFoot, or the 8th at Oakmont. And I'd believe exactly no one who says the 18th at the Black is a similar test, in the US Open, as either the 18th at Oakmont or WFoot.

I believe the US Open is the one tournament a year that should be unrelenting. Not the Masters, not the British Open, not the PGA, not even the Players at TPC. Just one -- this one. And it wasn't -- not with downhill wedge shots and a 6-iron/9-iron closer.

[Anthony Gray]

Not sure you can say the 18th hole setup was worthwhile.  Everybody putted from approximately the same place.  Driver to 50-60 yards, little wedge 30 feet behind the hole, and nobody made the putt.  Everybody made 4.

John, don't you think they'd have done better hitting a 250 yard shot and then a full sand wedge or lob wedge?  Those 60 yard shots are murder, and that was proved over and over again.  That was a tricky bit of Mike Davis planning there, similar to #14's pin.  Good stuff I thought.

  Bill,

  Again you have shown great knowledge about the game. Shorter may not equate to easier.

  Anthony

Anthony, you are such a suck up.

Kalen and Garland

  Kalen and Garland,

  I hate your posts!

  Anthony