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Neal_Meagher

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2002, 11:29:01 PM »
Gib,

You have covered everything socialistic, so to speak, now what about aesthetically?

This place shall have "SOUL", so much so that no one shall ever have to shriek.  It will roll and tumble forth across about 350 acres or so of sandy or sandy loam with a few interesting patches of indigenous trees to spice things up.

The clubhouse will be reached by a long and meandering entrance lane that dips and curves like a roiling putt along one of Goodale's Dornoch greens.  And once one arrives, the unassuming club will appear at the last second, around the bend and over a slight vertical curve, just slightly more abrupt than a civil engineer would approve of, even one from my alma mater.  Then............there it is..................as if it has always been there.  

A simple gravel and/or crushed granite car park, or to the point, a series of them staggered down a slight grade and diminished in importance by the magnificent native trees that will separate the actual parking areas.  And no concrete curbs shall be in evidence, instead there shall be 8-10' lengths of New England granite cut into 6" x 6" curbs elegantly edging the crushed granite which will sound just right underfoot.

Then onto the club itself which may have a small porte-cochere if only for inclement weather, and NOT for the use of headphone wearing "greeters".  If any greeters show up, they shall be turned into topdressing.  So this shall consist of a couple of small structures, an elegantly rustic golf shop to the left and 30-50' to its right, the club with a series of the aforementioned porches surrounding all and creating a sense of community.  And most definitely with those rocking chairs with curb service.  But Gib, a few very good blended scotches shall be allowed for those occasions when a scotch on the rocks is just what the doctor ordered.

One then wanders into this perfectly proportioned space between these buildings to behold the course beyond: sprawling, more brown than green, not a bunker rake on the premises (these will be hazards) and not a cart girl named Gretchen anywhere.

The course will start, like your Lake does, directly outside the golf shop window, so close that an extra wide backswing would break the glass.  And the 10th tee (if it happens to not be an 18-hole loop) would directly abut the outside bar.  So close that an extra wide backswing would break someone's manhattan or Arrogant Bastard.

No concrete would exist ANYWHERE on the premises, most especially on the golf course.  Instead there would be very discreet maintenance lanes of decomposed granite that would be oh so out-of-the-way.  And each tee would be so close to the preceeding green that an extra wide backswing would smack someone plumb-bobbing a putt on that previous green.  (maybe that would teach them not to plumb-bob).

There would be no discernable differentiation between what was there and what wasn't.  There would be no "death by cape and bay" bunkering.  ANYWHERE.  The hazards, instead, would be so sublimely naturalistic and visceral that one would want to weep at the awesome power and vitality that they would bring to this golf course.  And there would be no ROUND greens surrounded by multi-faceted fingery and lacy bunkers.  This excercise in dichotomy does not work in my visual head nor is it appropriate for Papazian Hills.  No, this will be a golf course for the shot-maker.  Because it would be primarily designed by the ultimate shot-maker, the knock-down, punchy, soft-fadey, make it do anything you want it to do architect.  I guess that would be you, or else you would have to name it something else.

In short (because this surely ain't), this place would simply -fit.  That, more than anything else, would assure that it would be perfectly suited to you, your Dad, Todd Hagen and George Bahto.

Oh, and one more thing, it would have a biarritz, a redan, a long, a short, an eden, an alps, a cape..................a bottle,................................................a punchbowl.......................................................................
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The purpose of art is to delight us; certain men and women (no smarter than you or I) whose art can delight us have been given dispensation from going out and fetching water and carrying wood. It's no more elaborate than that. - David Mamet

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David Wigler

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2002, 05:47:59 AM »
Gib,

Why don't you work a little harder at one of your ventures so you can become rich enough to build your club?  It sounds ideal.  Among clubs that really do exist, my dream club is The Golf Club in Columbus.  Two problems, they are not excepting new members (Especially Wolverines) and my wife would never let me join.
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And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

Who's the BOSS

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2002, 06:16:44 AM »
If financial one could understand, if not and one loves this wonderful game, that's pretty sad :(
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BillV (Guest)

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2002, 06:33:35 AM »
I would let a number of Joe Blows in off the street so that more can learn about good architecture and try and help the future of the game.

I played with wifey after a tone-a-mint went out at the club yesterday and the pace of play was so bad once we caught up to the pack that we walked in. (1:45 for 9 holes, :30 for two holes!) :P

We caught up to a man and his two young sons who are pretty good players and their pace on the greens was embarassingly abysmally glacial and these 13 and 16 year olds were in carts!!!!  And they were being held up by the tone-a-mint.

I would use my club to help the future of the game.

Absolutely ladies allowed, but you guys knew that

No halfway house, no return to he clubhouse at nine/ten, but several holes ideally a short walk from the clubhouse to encourage 3, 5 7, 11, etc hole plays

Anyone who knows and loves
-what a redan is
-who Charlie Mac was
-how to play fast, fix marks
-walks and carries (I love caddies, but at my own club I like to carry (Something Lehigh won't let me do much in season))
-fast play
can join my club (To be called Feifdom Golf Club?) 8)

MAX 3-balls allowed, foursomes OK and encouraged (4-balls too slow for me)

But members would be encouraged or required to bring a new pair of Joe Blows once a month.
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David Wigler

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2002, 06:52:35 AM »
Who's The Boss,

The Golf Club has several rules.  One is close to "Any structure with a roof on it, Women are not allowed in it."  Whether I am the boss or she is, I am not going to be allowed to join a club that doesn't even allow women to walk into the Pro Shop.

Boy - everything else about that place is perfect though.
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And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

TEPaul

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2002, 07:03:34 AM »
If it was my club I would have pace of play controlled by not crowding the course and by encouraging everyone to  understand pace of play etiquette thoroughly--which is basically extremely simply--there is a definition for letting groups through etc.

Personally I'm no slow player at all but the one thing I would encourage is that everyone enjoy their game and whatever happens to not have to feel their round is a footrace or one that is on a clock at all!!

Holding people up is lack of simple commonsense and it's not good at all but the other side of the spectrum are people who are so fanatical about speed of play that some golfers can hardly enjoy themselves. It's a game to be enjoyed not a game to be timed--not unless it's a monitored, officiated  tournament and pace of play becomes a problem!! Tournaments are different and as long as I've been officiating I've yet to see a group go through another group which is of course the commensense answer to pace of play problems in recreational golf!
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A_Clay_Man

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2002, 07:19:00 AM »
Tepaul- I don't know what bubble you golf in but most of us public types don't have the luxury of allowing groups thru or being allowed thru.
First off, if the course is empty, yes, letting and going thru is a viable option. The reality is that on a course with stacked tee times, it's counter-productive. Sure you might be get thru but what have you actually done to the rest of those poor bastards behind you? Slowed them down even more.

The onus of responsibility should be placed on the morons that can't find their arse with a compass. If done properly. the afflicted just might get the clue that they don't belong within two city blocks of a golf course and we never have to deal with them again.

Harsh but true.

And,(not you Tom) who/what was that crap about ministers??
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Mike Hendren

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2002, 07:32:39 AM »
Gib,

Sorry to crash your utopia, but I have retained legal counsel since your prohibition against Budweiser and power baits is obviously a thinly veiled attempt to exclude Tennesseans. :)
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Ben Cowan-Dewar

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2002, 07:48:36 AM »
Membership would be balanced throughout by ages.

Parents and children would be a personal favourite.

No amenities, other than those described.

My ideal piece of land has a stone farm house, so that strikes me what my clubhouse would be.

I would give the designing to a young architect full of passion, who would love the land as much as I do.

I would not interfere, except to offer my idea for every hole  ;)

So long as I had a great golf course and somewhere to sleep, I would leave the details to Gib, who seemingly has the rest planned to a tee.
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Peter Galea

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2002, 07:52:55 AM »
Replace the rockers with Adirondack chairs and most of this sounds like Olde Kinderhook. :)
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Will E

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2002, 08:33:13 AM »
everyone is required to bring their dog to the course at least once a week, weekdays only.
one hole with lots of flowers and a waterfall for Wigler :)
everyone plays Ben Hogan irons
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David Wigler

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2002, 09:23:30 AM »
Shooter,

Your "Wigler" hole better be as pretty as the Par 3 on the new nine at Country Club of The Desert.  I still cannot believe you did not like that hole.  It was spectacular.
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And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

Patrick_Mucci

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2002, 09:53:29 AM »
Gib,

After reading all of the responses, which real golf club comes closest to meeting all of the desired criteria ?
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RJ_Daley

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2002, 12:00:16 PM »
Pat, I know you asked Gib, but backtrack to Brad Klein's thread on Wild Horse and see how many criteria you can pick out.  I'd say that the only thing lacking is an expansion of the clubhouse to have a better kitchen and dining area.  It needs about 3000sqft more space to operate like a comfy little club.  It has the wrap around porch.  It also has the kind of cost to operate structure where memberships could be held to a very affordable level by most standards in the country.  If the course were in your home area, I believe they'd have a suitable CH and charge 200K to join...  :o

Now, if they could transport the clubhouse of the other Axeland and Proctor course out there, Bayside, you'd have paradise.  Bayside has one of the coolest rustic log cabin CHs I have seen.  Plenty of separate private space for banquets or meetings.  It is sort of a mini Old Faithful Inn...
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Gib_Papazian

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2002, 04:30:30 PM »
Patrick,

Interesting question. Oddly enough, the closest club to this ideal is probably yours. Garden City has a great amateur event, perfectly routed, walkable golf course, comfy clubhouse and wonderful veranda. The drinks are as strong as the water pressure in the shower, and the grillroom is a golf museum and library. The membership is intimate and everything about the place is soooothing and relaxing. No tennis or swimming pool and every pore in that rickety old clubhouse drips tradition.

I cannot compare it to NGLA or Shinnecock because I have never gotten as clear a sense of the tone of those clubs on a personal level. I always get treated wonderfully, but clearly as a guest - I never quite get to feeling completely comfortable like I hope my friends do at Olympic.

There is a more formal undertone to those clubhouses than I would like on an everyday basis. Perhaps it is just the social texture of the Hamptons - Maidstone strikes me in a similar fashion.

But SFGC - although one of my favorite golf courses - is also a vaguely uncomfortable atmosphere for me. I have never gotten past the suspicion that everyone is being subtley evaluated - by the members, the help, even the caddies. Burlingame CC too.

Any club that I found will strive for organized informality.  Dice boxes in the bar, lots of laughter and a membership roster full of needle-artists, that is my idea of heaven. . . . all against a backdrop of a perfectly organic setting that feels like a secret enclave even if stark reality lies directly outside the gates.

Maybe it is my Olympic Club orientation, but the idea of two completely different types of golf courses appeals to me. Winged Foot feels too much like an enormous factory (as does Olympic) and the East Course is just a rational version of the West. I get the sense they are too much alike.

The economic realities of a 36 hole facility dictate a larger membership, but this is my fantasy and not reality.

Neal will do the designing and I'll try not to annoy him with too many impractical ideas. It is a wonder he has not lost patience yet. . . . . "gee Neal, wouldn't a Principal's Nose bunker look really cool right there? . . . . . oh, yeah, I guess the water would collect . . . . how about a Principal's Nose pond?"

I'm going to pull out a golf club I ran across last year that seems to get most everything right - and it will surprise you.

Lahontan GC outside of Truckee, CA seems to have that magic combination of informality and first class amenities without seeming garish or wastefully oppulent.

It is just a short distance from town but you would never know it is there unless you were purposely trying to find it.
 
The golf course (Weiskopf) just wanders away from the clubhouse down a hill and meanders through the pines and hills with a fairly seamless routing (there is a small backtrack on the 3rd hole). It is firm and fast with plenty of opportunities to invent different shots. A refreshing walk where 36 holes will actually energize you.

The clubhouse is this understated structure blended into the pine forest with all sorts of decks and seating areas and gorgeous views of the Sierras. Everything is made of wood and there are areas with lots of light and some in the cozy shadows.

I like a clubhouse with lots of little nooks and crannies and every time I walked around a corner exploring the place I came across a few inviting chairs surrounding a firepit, similar to what is outside at Spanish Bay except tasteful.

Everyone from the head professional to the bartender goes along at an unhurried pace with a genuine friendlyness and not the slightest hint of that kind of ass-kissing smarmy crap so prevalent at "new money clubs."

It was Friday afternoon and they have a weekly cocktail party on one of the decks for all the members and their guests.

Everyone is made to feel welcome - people come right up and introduce themselves and fetch the newcomer a drink. Nothing but smiles - and not the phony kind.

Below the deck on the putting green is the entire ground's crew and Superintendent, playing croquette and drinking beer supplied by the club every week as a thank you for doing a great job.

Is that the ideal club? Nah . . . . mostly because it is seasonal and lacks all the important touches that Garden City has, but combine the two and it would be tough to beat.

Now, if only it had a Redan . . . . .    
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Joe Hancock

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2002, 05:36:58 PM »
I've always pictured my ideal pro shop as a small stone builing in the shade of some large trees with a putting green nearby. The pro would be an older gentleman with a cigar in is mouth and has been in golf forever. There would be a spigot on the side of the building with a slow, steady drip. Pro shop has a few types of balls, hats, gloves...maybe a few top line putters. Gee, I'm feeling a bit nostalgic!

Joe
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Bob_Huntley

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2002, 07:11:19 PM »
JHancock;

With respect, I would fire the first employee who would walk around with a cigar in his mouth.

Sorry, but seeing a cigar butt left on a golf course is about as disgusting a scene as one could imagine.
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Mike_Cirba

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2002, 07:26:26 PM »
I would concur with many of the thoughts expressed already, and would cite Stonewall, and the course I played yesterday, Olde Kinderhook near Albany, NY (as Pete Galea mentioned) as modern clubs who have the right idea.

In fact, Olde Kinderhook hasn't even really built a formal clubhouse with showers and such yet, such is the focus on golf.  In fact, the owner leaves the club open all winter for member play (and you can imagine that upstate NY does not have balmy winter weather), and a "busy day" even in mid-season is 40 golfers.  The membership and staff are uniformly welcoming and the whole place feels like just a local hangout for like-minded friends.  The golf course is superb and immensely challenging while surely being the best Rees Jones course I've seen.  From a maintenance standpoint, it plays so firm and fast that you can hear the ball rolling across the crispy greens.

Back to the general topic; one thing I haven't heard mentioned yet that I thought I might add is that there is something so quaint and civilized about providing wooden benches at each tee.    
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John_D._Bernhardt

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2002, 09:57:28 PM »
Good Point for I have yet to give my dream for it is a work in hopeful reality. Yet wood benches in the form of half logs or some very simple wood bench is part of theat walking ideal.
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TEPaul

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2002, 10:19:28 PM »
a clay man:

I'll tell you what--if you're going to play that kind of public golf and public courses you better just get used to it---cuz it ain't gonna change. If there's no room on the course to let a group thru take it up with the people who own the course and set the tee times and the group spacing--if they put too many people on the course that's the problem, and no amount of etiquette is going to fix that!
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brad_miller

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #45 on: May 29, 2002, 06:17:45 AM »
Mike, I suspect in manys ideal course wood or other benches would not be needed. :)
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David Wigler

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #46 on: May 29, 2002, 06:42:33 AM »
I have been ducking this since I hate to jinx the dream but what the heck.  My ideal club...

The property is 400 acres.  In a tragic accident, every environmentalist within 100 miles fell off a cliff on a "Save the horned bullfrog" retreat.  Therefore, with no one to protest, we can use any part of the property to build the golf course.  The terrain in rolling with 60 - 80 feet of grade.  There is a natural river running through the property that, if well routed, could be traversed multiple times.  There is one spring fed lake that can be put in play.   The course is 19 holes with a complete chipping and putting complex around an oversized putting green and 18 hole putting course.  It is designed by one of the up and coming superstars of golf design (who gets classical architecture).  I promise to make fewer suggestions than Tom Paul makes posts on GCA.

The clubhouse is a brick and stone building.  The locker room has the oversized metal lockers.  Every row has pictures of the course history.  The locker room manager knows your name, your guests name, your families names and every off color golf joke ever told.  The Dining Room and halfway house serve tremendous hot dogs, grilled chicken, burgers and fries.  There is a small formal dining room with a major wine list for entertaining.  The Head Professional is a student of the game who loves to teach.  He spends the majority of his time on the range working with anyone he can.  If he does not have a lesson, then he walks over to some kid who is on the range trying to get better and helps him free.  The Assistant Pro's make sure everything is organized but make it a point to play with every member in the club.  If ever a group shows up with a threesome, they always ask if they would like a fourth.  

The membership is made up of people who like to gamble (But understand that it is far more fun to win $20 than $200, since the important thing is the teasing that goes along with winning but you never need to feel guilty about taking $20).  The only time there is a disagreement at the club is because everyone always fights over who has the privilege of signing for the days chits.  The caddies are made up of high school and college golfers.  They have playing privileges at least twice a week and are always tipped at least 100% of the caddie fee.  The club leads the area every year in producing Evans Scholars.  The by-laws state that anyone sandbagging with be publicly flogged and all tournaments are won by the best player on that day.  The Head Superintendent understands hard and fast fairways and "Augusta" greens.  His budget is whatever he says it needs to be - no questions asked.

That is enough for now.
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And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

Bob_Huntley

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #47 on: May 29, 2002, 09:29:12 AM »
I would dissuade any member from making larger than life bets. More clubs and friendships have been ruined by excessive gambling than any other cause. Forty years ago, Royal Johannesburg had a clique of punters that caused much concern to the rest of the membership. Because they tipped expansively and the caddies always bet on their player, the rest of the members would have a tough time getting a caddie, as they all hid in the background until their favourite arrived. It got so bad, that the Board issued an edict that no one was to play for more than thirty pennies out and in, drinks at the turn and for lunch. If it was determined that a Member had broken the rules he was
suspended for ninety days.

My point, what is the amount that is considered reasonable?
In our group, any one who loses ten dollars or more is out of the drink roll.
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David Wigler

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Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #48 on: May 29, 2002, 09:33:53 AM »
Bob,

You hit on the point I was getting at.  I like to needle and tease.  If I when $5.00, I can needle the loser about which direction the money is going in.  If I win $200.00 I feel bad about taking that much money from someone.  Gambling on a golf course is fun in my mind.  Your rule would be just fine at my club.  No bet that exceeds the cost of dinner and drinks.
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And I took full blame then, and retain such now.  My utter ignorance in not trumpeting a course I have never seen remains inexcusable.
Tom Huckaby 2/24/04

shivas at home

Re: You have started your own club - who gets in?
« Reply #49 on: May 29, 2002, 03:45:14 PM »
I'm having trouble logging on at work, so here goes from home:

36 holes

semi-private

male members only (alternating between courses), so that one course is always male members only and the other is for everyone else (the fairest compromise I know of)

non-members get on only with a letter from a pro that our pro knows and trusts.

employees, non-members, ladies, unaccompanied kids, etc. play the other course any time they want, with members having priority and everyone else filling in on a first come, first served basis

no tee times -- just show and play

mens' locker room has bar and lounge so we can hide, be stupid, belch, etc

everything is self serve -- the bar, the halfway (which comes with a fridge, a Weber Genesis and a spatchula and that's about it.  If you don't clean up after yourself, you lose playing privileges.  The dining room is the only exception -- the dining room has exceptional service and is a cool contrast to the get-it-yourself atmosphere throughout the rest of the club.

no snobby membership policy.  Initiation is based on ability to pay, and the club is equity,  so the zillionaire who has to pay a ton to get in gets his dough back, but the teacher who loves golf and can't afford to pay a ton also gets his back too. Voting is one member, one vote so the fact that a handful of really rich guys will probably own most of the equity in the club doesn't matter as to policy.   All membership decisions are made initially on a blind basis, with a written test consisting of rigorous questions about golf and golf history (with an afffidavit from a pro or somebody reputable that they took the test without cheating) -- what is a redan, who besides Paul Laurie won the Open at Carnoustie, name 6 British Open courses, what is the modern day equivalent of a mashie, who invented the sand wedge, who designed Bethpage (trick question), how do you hit a knock-down, etc.  If the application has good enough answers, the prospective member is brought in for an oral interview and a playing examination.  At that point, we figure out whether he's a zillionaire CEO or a trucker, and at that point, it doesn't matter  -- if he's a good guy who knows golf,he's in, and the only issue is how much to charge him to get in (the standard for this is that it has to hurt enough financially to make him think about whether it's worth it, but no more than that).  

members get their own damn bag from the bag racks

trollies are encouraged

motorized carts for those unable to walk have governors so they can only go at a walking pace to encourage conversation between shots

you aren't frowned upon for NOT taking a caddie if you carry

members loop for employees occasionally based on a system similar to jury duty, ie you get hit up for it every year or two on special occasions.

every new member must contribute some cool piece of golf memorabelia, commensurate with his ability to procure the same, which all goes on the walls.

obvious stuff -- no cart paths, no ballwashers, no waterfalls, pot bunkers everywhere, dogs allowed, no gossip, no ladies league if it gives prizes for fewest putts in 9 holes.

holds major amateur tournament

anyone known as a sandbagger is banned from the premises

all club events require the use of blades and wood woods, otherwise anything technology-wise goes.

 

 

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