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Mark Alexander

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New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« on: February 03, 2009, 05:04:57 AM »
Based in Scotland, I can't wait to see Machrihanish Dunes opened this year as well as Castle Stuart.
What are you looking forward to seeing in play this year?

David_Elvins

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2009, 05:38:40 AM »
this could be a short thread.

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Matthew Mollica

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2009, 06:17:42 AM »
A few golfers will be keen to see all 18 holes at Old Mac open too I suspect.

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Anthony Gray

Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2009, 07:55:42 AM »


  Castle Stuart looks awesome.

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David Whitmer

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2009, 08:35:49 AM »
More out of curiosity than anything else, the courses being designed by Tiger Woods. I look forward to seeing what kind of product he can deliver.

PCCraig

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2009, 08:45:38 AM »
I would say Barnbougle Dunes 2, Old Macdonald, the Tiger course in Mexico, and maybe the new Chicago Hieghts course west of the city (only because new courses have been so rare around here in the past 10 years).
H.P.S.

Jim Adkisson

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2009, 08:49:14 AM »
Looking forward to Slag's efforts at Wine Valley in WW, Wa this spring and the full Mac in '10.

Michael Whitaker

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2009, 11:15:44 AM »
The Cliffs at High Carolina - Tiger Woods

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Jeff_Brauer

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2009, 11:22:33 AM »
My next one......whenever that might be.
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Rich Goodale

Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2009, 11:37:20 AM »
I'm still waiting for the Carthage Club, or even Papazian Hills...........

Tom Huckaby

Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2009, 11:40:40 AM »
I'm still waiting for the Carthage Club, or even Papazian Hills...........

Screw those, I want to see Goodale Glen.


Doug Wright

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2009, 11:49:38 AM »
CommonGround Golf Course, opening May 23

http://www.commongroundgc.blogspot.com/
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Adam Russell

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2009, 12:04:39 PM »
Bunker Hill's Blue Ridge Golf and River Club

http://www.brgrc.com/
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Brad Tufts

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2009, 12:29:04 PM »
Not that I don't know the likely answer to this question...but:

Anything new opening in New England this year?

Last year we had Butter Brook and Old Marsh, among maybe a couple others.

I think the Penobscot Valley reno/resto is opening this year...
So I jump ship in Hong Kong....

Wyatt Halliday

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2009, 12:53:35 PM »
CommonGround Golf Course, opening May 23

http://www.commongroundgc.blogspot.com/

Doug,

I think they have the main website up and fully functioning now.

http://www.commongroundgc.com/

Jay Kirkpatrick

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2009, 12:55:37 PM »
my home course... currently undergoing a major $6 million renovation.

Tom_Doak

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2009, 01:02:29 PM »
Hey, those are some good pictures of Common Ground.

This is one where I don't think they will spoil it by showing every hole.  It's not the kind of property where there is a jaw-dropping view just around the next corner ... the course will appeal because of the smaller-scale details of the bunkering and because of how the holes play, which won't show up that well in pictures, anyway.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2009, 01:13:31 PM »
I was just about to post that there's a nice photo tour of Common Ground on the web site that Wyatt posted.

Tom,

Does the 10th green fall away front to back? 

How similar was the design process of CG w/the Rawls course?  Both seem to be essentially 'blank canvases' to design what you want (or can) on a core, contiguous, and (mostly) flat ground.

Tom_Doak

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2009, 02:31:52 PM »
Scott:

Common Ground is nothing at all like The Rawls Course.  The budget was 1/2 as much ... the only earthmoving we did was a requirement to remove some soil from the bottom end of the course and put it around the edges, to increase the flood control capacity of the site.  (You can't see it in the pictures but there is a large flood control dyke along one side of the course.)

At The Rawls we spent a lot of $ on the landscaping to hide the surrounding properties.  At Common Ground we spent very little on this aside from the required earthmoving and moving a few trees around.  We did re-route the course to take what advantage we could of the natural contours and the trees that had been planted over the years ... but mostly the design is about the greens and the small bunkers.

And yes, the 10th green does fall away from the line of play ... as does the 1st and parts of a couple others.

Mike_Cirba

Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2009, 02:52:21 PM »
Which am I most looking forward to?

In this economic environment, I'm looking forward to any course being opened.   :o

From the perspective of something near and dear to my heart, which is reasonably priced architecturally interesting golf, CommonGround is the course I'm most anticipating seeing.

Wyatt Halliday

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2009, 02:57:19 PM »
Since the interest is building, I figured this could be helpful. The final three holes on each nine look especially thrilling on paper.

Edit: As Tom points out, this is the original drawing. It looks like I'm a bit ahead of myself.



The Aerial



The bunkering on the par 5 third

« Last Edit: February 03, 2009, 03:10:21 PM by Wyatt Halliday »

K. Krahenbuhl

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2009, 03:00:06 PM »
#17 looks to be a beast.

Tom_Doak

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2009, 03:01:49 PM »
Wyatt:

I hope you're not disappointed.  That's the original plan of the course ... the bunkering is pretty different than what we depicted before the start of construction, especially on 16 and 17.  The eighth hole is much different as well.

Doug Wright

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2009, 03:05:36 PM »
Since the interest is building, I figured this could be helpful. The final three holes on each nine look especially thrilling on paper.

I looked at the routing this morning before seeing the photos and agree that 16-18 should be a very strong finish. Also holes 4-8 look really good.

Question for Tom Doak--the description of #18 says there's a "pine tree planted in the middle of the fairway in front of the green."  What's up with that?

The interest is indeed building around here regarding this course...
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Wyatt Halliday

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Re: New courses you're most looking forward to being opened
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2009, 03:17:30 PM »
Wyatt:

I hope you're not disappointed.  That's the original plan of the course ... the bunkering is pretty different than what we depicted before the start of construction, especially on 16 and 17.  The eighth hole is much different as well.
Since the interest is building, I figured this could be helpful. The final three holes on each nine look especially thrilling on paper.

I looked at the routing this morning before seeing the photos and agree that 16-18 should be a very strong finish. Also holes 4-8 look really good.

Question for Tom Doak--the description of #18 says there's a "pine tree planted in the middle of the fairway in front of the green."  What's up with that?

The interest is indeed building around here regarding this course...

Tom,

I look forward to seeing the finished results soon, and the differences on the ground. Disappointed may be too strong a word.

For Doug - Said Pine Tree


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