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Daniel_Wexler

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Research Help/Question
« on: January 01, 2009, 04:40:10 PM »
(Updated to reflect some of the responses posted below)

Greetings Gentlemen (and Ladies?).

I'm doing a bit of research and hoping to save myself some significant time and legwork.  Specifically, I'm looking for current hole-by-hole, back tee yardages (pars and slope are nice, but not necessary) for any of the following 21 American courses.  If any of you well-traveled sorts can help (either by typing them out or just scanning a scorecard image), I'd be most grateful.  Oh yes, rather than waste Ran's space, feel free just to email the info to me at midd23@aol.com....unless, for whatever reason, you prefer just to post it here. 

Any and all help appreciated!

DW

The 21 courses are:

Flagstaff Ranch GC – Flagstaff,AZ   
The Madison C – La Quinta,CA 
Menlo CC – Woodside,CA 
Quinnatisset CC – Thompson,CT 
Pablo Creek GC – Jacksonville,FL 
Kukio G & Beach C – Kailua-Kona,HI 
Black Sheep GC – Sugar Grove,IL 
Gozzer Ranch Golf & Lake Club – Coeur D’Alene,ID
Indian Hill GC – Winnetka,IL 
TPC Potomac at Avenel Farm – Potomac,MD (newly renovated version) 
Spring Hill GC – Orono,MN 
Westwood CC – St Louis,MO 
Iron Horse GC – Whitefish,MT 
Morefar Back O’Beyond GC – Brewster,NY 
Eagle Point GC – Wilmington,NC 
Sakonnet GC – Little Compton,RI 
Cherokee Plantation – Yemassee,SC 
Hampton Hall C – Bluffton,SC   
The Reserve at Lake Keowee – Sunset,SC 
Lowes Island C – Potomac Falls,VA (36) 
Snake River Sporting C – Jackson,WY


 
« Last Edit: January 04, 2009, 04:53:40 AM by Daniel_Wexler »

Michael Moore

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2009, 04:57:58 PM »
Prouts Neck - a must play! 



course rating - 68.9
slope - 128
par - 70
yards - 6059


4 - 371
4 - 368
4 - 346
4 - 381
3 - 171
4 - 390
4 - 390
4 - 411
4 - 326


3 - 196
5 - 536
4 - 355
3 - 142
4 - 367
4 - 351
4 - 291
3 - 189
5 - 478
« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 09:20:06 PM by Michael Moore »
Metaphor is social and shares the table with the objects it intertwines and the attitudes it reconciles. Opinion, like the Michelin inspector, dines alone. - Adam Gopnik, The Table Comes First

John Kirk

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2009, 05:12:42 PM »
I'll take one.  Hi Daniel!

Old Sandwich GC

Yards  6908
Rating/Slope  74.1/139

1 - 531
2 - 403
3 - 450
4 - 238
5 - 336
6 - 562
7 - 391
8 - 379
9 - 131

10 - 516
11 - 244
12 - 455
13 - 560
14 - 369
15 - 168
16 - 486
17 - 191
18 - 498

Old Sandwich is a great place.  Outstanding walking course.  Good sandy land.  Very complicated and tricky greens.

I can't resist telling you that Snake River Sporting Club sets a new standard for asset to liability ratio:

http://www.jacksonholenews.com/article.php?art_id=3952

Daniel_Wexler

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2009, 07:40:39 PM »
Much obliged to both of you guys.  Many thanks!

Two down, 33 to go........

DW

Michael Moore

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2009, 09:02:52 PM »
Berkshire Hills

a ball-buster . . .  thanks again to Steve Curry . . . thirteenth green stunning . . .




course rating - 72.8
slope - 128
par - 72
yards - 6780

4 - 423
5 - 560
3 - 167
4 - 554
3 - 194
4 - 430
3 - 200
4 - 433
4 - 439


5 - 531
4 - 390
4 - 384
3 - 177
4 - 367
5 - 474
4 - 409
3 - 154
5 - 494



« Last Edit: January 01, 2009, 09:51:50 PM by Michael Moore »
Metaphor is social and shares the table with the objects it intertwines and the attitudes it reconciles. Opinion, like the Michelin inspector, dines alone. - Adam Gopnik, The Table Comes First

jim_lewis

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2009, 10:17:41 PM »
Daniel:

I have score cards for Pablo Creek, Ogeechee, Eagle Point, Cherokee Plantation, Old Farm and Sahalee.  If you will email your mailing address to jflewis@nc.rr.com, I'll be happy to mail copies. I just don't have time to transcribe the info. You can get most of the data you want just by logging into the club's websites.

Jim Lewis
"Crusty"  Jim
Freelance Curmudgeon

mike_beene

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2009, 10:42:24 PM »
Daniel,are you sure you dont mean Cliffs Vinyards?It is in Sunset and I have it.I dont see a reserve.

Ed Oden

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2009, 12:29:09 AM »
Sage Valley

Par 72/7344 yards

1 - 429 par 4
2 - 194 par 3
3 - 433 par 4
4 - 525 par 5
5 - 437 par 4
6 - 336 par 4
7 - 235 par 3
8 - 594 par 5
9 - 476 par 4

10 - 585 par 5
11 - 435 par 4
12 - 209 par 3
13 - 378 par 4
14 - 447 par 4
15 - 549 par 5
16 - 224 par 3
17 - 431 par 4
18 - 427 par 4

Plus 3 dormie holes

1 - 413 par 4
2 - 361 par 4
3 - 163 par 3

Sorry, slope/CR are not shown on the card.  Very nice course by the way.

Ed


Daniel_Wexler

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2009, 04:52:00 AM »
Thanks to everyone so far.

Mike Beene: I'm looking for www.reserveatlakekeowee.com.  But it hasn't been easy.  :)

DW


Mike Sweeney

Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2009, 06:07:43 AM »
http://www.customscorecards.com/scorecard.php?course=3373

I think this is accurate for Sakonnet and you may find others here too.

jim_lewis

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2009, 07:19:42 AM »
Daniel:

I have The Reserve at Lake Keowee. I'll add it to the others that I'm sending, hopefully today. Monday for sure.

Jim
"Crusty"  Jim
Freelance Curmudgeon

Jon Spaulding

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2009, 11:15:59 AM »
I have some junk on Menlo CC but will not be back to my office until next week.
You'd make a fine little helper. What's your name?

Mark Pritchett

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2009, 11:36:53 AM »
Chattanooga G and CC

CR-73.6
Slope-133

1 - 372 par 4
2 - 398 par 4
3 - 458 par 4
4 - 503 par 5
5 - 172 par 3
6 - 408 par 4
7 - 513 par 5
8 - 472 par 4
9 - 178 par 3

10 - 380 par 4
11 - 300 par 4
12 - 469 par 4
13 - 128 par 3
14 - 373 par 4
15 - 459 par 4
16 - 555 par 5
17 - 325 par 4
18 - 222 par 3

6,685 yards

Daniel_Wexler

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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »
Mike Sweeney:

I believe that is the "old" Sakonnet card, prior to Gil Hanse's renovations.  I'm pretty certain I've exhausted customscorecards.com, though it's conceivable I might have missed one...

Jon Spaulding:

No worries, next week is great.

Thanks (again) to all.

DW

Jimmy Muratt

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2009, 12:40:21 PM »
Boston Golf Club
Hingham, Mass.

1 - 524
2 - 418
3 - 430
4 - 438
5 - 317
6 - 165
7 - 460
8 - 232
9 - 458

10 - 412
11 - 188
12 - 430
13 - 487
14 - 443
15 - 560
16 - 341
17 - 541
18 - 195

Total:  7039 yards, par 71
Rating/Slope:  75.0 / 141

ANTHONYPIOPPI

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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2009, 12:52:30 PM »
Quinnatisset CC – Thompson,CT

Why Quinnatisset?

Tony

Daniel_Wexler

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2009, 02:17:29 PM »
Tony:

Idle curiosity (for now).....   :)

DW

Daniel_Wexler

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2009, 04:49:54 AM »
A self-serving bump... :)

HELP!!!!!!

Mark Pritchett

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2009, 09:23:17 AM »
Sage Valley

Course rating 76.3
Slope 142


ANTHONYPIOPPI

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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2009, 09:56:05 AM »
I'll see if I know anyone that has a card from there.

Tony

ANTHONYPIOPPI

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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2009, 10:04:02 AM »
Concord CC

1 477
2 433
3 408
4 400
5 438
6 196
7 345
8 367
9 150
3214

10 409
11 366
12 184
13 355
14 420
15 188
16 437
17 518
18 412
3289

6503


Daniel_Wexler

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2009, 12:32:26 PM »
Thanks Tony...and everyone else. 

All continuing help is appreciated!

DW

Jim_Kennedy

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2009, 12:54:50 PM »
Quinnatisset CC

1-335 
2-214 
3-240 
4-373 
5-426 
6-165 
7-410 
8-188 
9-277 
10-388 
11-412 
12-364 
13-178 
14-520 
15-181 
16-343 
17-359 
18-509 


 

"I never beat a well man in my life" - Harry Vardon

Mike Erdmann

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Re: Research Help/Question
« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2009, 01:34:41 PM »
Tumble Creek GC in Roslyn, WA



1- 400
2 - 200
3 - 360
4 - 585
5 - 402
6 - 425
7 - 225
8 - 505
9 - 455
10 - 432
11 - 172
12 - 445
13 - 165
14 - 587
15 - 485
16 - 380
17 - 220
18 - 485

Daniel_Wexler

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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2009, 07:08:57 PM »
Jim Kennedy:

Are you certain those numbers are current?  Probably they are and I'm clueless, but I'm having a hard time matching them with an aerial...

Again, thanks to everyone - and all available help is still welcomed.

DW