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Bill_McBride

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2008, 04:30:41 PM »
That last photo is terrific.  This could be Scotland.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2008, 04:35:24 PM »
Slagbert already wrote that it is public, to turn semi-private.

Alfalfa is used as the first greek letter in University of Idaho sororities, such as alfa falfa hay.

Or it is something to let the Washington State University cheerleaders to graze on.


  Garland............I just pissed my pants!



Actually, that post was a jab at the infamous Jordan Wall in case he was watching. I miss Jordan. He used to be quite a punching bag. Now I have to substitute Kalen for my punching bag.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Norbert P

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2008, 04:54:10 PM »

Or it is something to let the Washington State University cheerleaders to graze on.


 I can just hear the Jerry Springer audience . . . . "ooooohhhh!!! Yo!, you been served, WSU girls!"

 . . . and from such a lovable guy who has the zen characteristics of a Camellia saluenensis.
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Norbert P

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2008, 04:58:26 PM »


     What is alfalfa used for?

   

 They feed horses, don't they?
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Garland Bayley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2008, 05:00:29 PM »

Or it is something to let the Washington State University cheerleaders to graze on.


 I can just hear the Jerry Springer audience . . . . "ooooohhhh!!! Yo!, you been served, WSU girls!"

 . . . and from such a lovable guy who has the zen characteristics of a Camellia saluenensis.

Slag,

Were you thinking of Tazo Tea's
                 "Zen(tm)"
Ingredients - Camellia senensis, lemon verbena, spearment leaves, lemongrass, and natural flavors?
  ;)
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Bill_McBride

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2008, 05:48:32 PM »
Slagbert already wrote that it is public, to turn semi-private.

Alfalfa is used as the first greek letter in University of Idaho sororities, such as alfa falfa hay.

Or it is something to let the Washington State University cheerleaders to graze on.


  Garland............I just pissed my pants!



Actually, that post was a jab at the infamous Jordan Wall in case he was watching. I miss Jordan. He used to be quite a punching bag. Now I have to substitute Kalen for my punching bag.


I played in the same group with Jordan at Pasatiempo at the April 2008 Kings Putter.  That boy can play!  White pants and a downhill birdie putt on 18 (after he got a read off my miss from a foot farther away  >:( )

He ran into a buzzsaw that day - the Steve Pieracci model - but played very well, and is long.  I hope he's too busy molesting those grazing WSU cheerleaders to pay any attention to our aging crowd!  ;D

Kalen Braley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2008, 05:52:05 PM »
Bill,

I hope you're refferring to the female variety of WSU cheerleaders. 

Bill_McBride

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2008, 06:19:26 PM »
Bill,

I hope you're refferring to the female variety of WSU cheerleaders. 

If you know Jordan you'll know that's the only kind!  The lad is a bit girl crazy.....

Garland Bayley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #33 on: December 03, 2008, 06:20:15 PM »
Bill,

I was under the impression that he spends all this time with the sophisticats of Alfa Falfa Hay in Moscow.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Richard Boult


Anthony Gray

Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2008, 09:33:07 PM »


  Having the names Slag and Walla Walla on the same thread, this is stuff of legends,


   Anthony


Tom Ferrell

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2008, 11:02:57 PM »
Slag!  How are you, my friend?

Folks, this course is spectacular.  I have played the front nine and walked the back nine.  Dan Hixson and the entire team have crafted something great.

Lots to come on Wine Valley GC.  Stay tuned.

Rob Rigg

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2008, 12:16:57 AM »
Slag,

Thanks for the response - obviously it is difficult to get much from pictures aside from first impressions so I asked the follow up to clarify - and I was very pleased with your response - that's brilliant.

Tremendous setting indeed - I look fwd to getting out there before it opens and the homes go in (a la Tetherow).

Congrats on the great work.

Sean_A

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #38 on: December 04, 2008, 03:15:07 AM »
Congratulations on the great looking course, Norbert.  As I understand it, you did the bunker construction, right?  Way to go!

Bill, Yes, like 50 of 'em!   (I did a few)


Scene from Napolean Dynamite . . .

 "Don:      Hey, Napoleon. What did you do last summer again?
Napoleon Dynamite: I told you! I spent it with my uncle in Alaska hunting wolverines!
Don:        Did you shoot any?
Napoleon Dynamite: Yes, like 50 of 'em! They kept trying to attack my cousins, what the heck would you do in a situation like that?
Don: What kind of gun did you use?
Napoleon Dynamite: A freakin' 12-gauge, what do you think?"

Any fan of Napolean Dynamite couldn't build a bad course. 

Who is that chap smoking the fine Punch?

Ciao
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Garland Bayley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #39 on: December 04, 2008, 10:36:23 AM »

Who is that chap smoking the fine Punch?

Ciao

My guess would be that would be lurker Dan (Hixson).

Slag would have to confirm.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Tom Ferrell

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2008, 11:48:24 AM »
A couple of images to augment Slag's...

The wash gives a Cape element to the tee shot at the par-5 15th.



From the center bunker, about 100 yards out on the 15th, the golfer plays uphill to a wonderful concealed green.



The fairways and bunkers blend well with the longer views and larger topography.



The 7th(?) green.  The vertical cleaving of the soil on the bunker edges creates a dramatic effect.  The internal contouring and surrounds of the greens will test the imagination and skill





« Last Edit: December 04, 2008, 12:00:15 PM by Tom Ferrell »

Garland Bayley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2008, 11:56:58 AM »
Thanks for the pictures Tom. I am sure they will whet many an appetite.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

RJ_Daley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2008, 12:12:08 PM »
It really does have a element of rustic beauty and the bunkers do seem to have nice relationship to the distant hills.   

I like the description of the "verticle cleaveing of bunkers".  Now, that is a bit of a unique bunker design, probably given the construction technique they employed to work in that soil.  This demands that Slag or Dan come on here and describe their construction technique of these bunkers.  The last photo really shows the nature of their approach to scraping out a bunker site in the apparently clayey soil.  Will they wish to maintain the "cleaved out" edges as raw soil or hope to plug in or somehow establish fescue mix or native wheatgrasses in the exposed-cleaved bunker edges?  Or.... is this possibly a place where eventually, stacked sod walls might be employed on the greenside faces, with open soil FW side entrance into the bunkers? 



this bunker appears to show a higher cleaved edge on the outward side away from the green, with the line of play coming in from the back side of the photo.  Thus, a ball off line could very well end up hard against the back side wall of the bunker.  Could that not be so challenging of a backswing of any ball within about 18" as to require a bunker blast sideways or even backwards?  Not that if that be the case, that it is a bad thing, but unique and puts the word hazard very much in play.

BTW, what is the origin and composition of that bottom of the bunker sand?

Inquiring minds want to know, Norby!   ;D ;D ;D

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Michael Dugger

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2008, 12:39:03 PM »

Who is that chap smoking the fine Punch?

Ciao

My guess would be that would be lurker Dan (Hixson).

Slag would have to confirm.


Nope.  That's not Dan
What does it matter if the poor player can putt all the way from tee to green, provided that he has to zigzag so frequently that he takes six or seven putts to reach it?     --Alistair Mackenzie--

RJ_Daley

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2008, 01:13:48 PM »
How busy is that 11-14 green: 12-15 tee complex?  Is the green conceived as a partial or semi-double green, but with a bunker complex to share?
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Tom Ferrell

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2008, 01:25:41 PM »
RJ - very astute.  Dan told me that his original brainstorm idea was to build hole components that could be mixed and matched.  Kind of a reverse-course + idea.  Whether that ever actually comes into play or not, who knows?  But particularly in that 11-15 corridor, you could do some exciting mix and matches.

Norbert P

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2008, 02:55:34 PM »
 Dick, Here's an excerpt of loess soil structure. . .

". . . loess often retains the shape of banks for many years without slumping. This soil characteristic is called vertical cleavage. "

  If you drive through highway cuts in the area you'll see how stable the soil is over decades of weather exposure.  We're expecting some limited erosion to take place.










 The bunker shapers were given this photo of the local mountains for inspiration.


 
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

Tom Ferrell

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2008, 03:03:12 PM »
Who would not be inspired by such majestic, uh, cleavage?

Anthony Gray

Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2008, 03:03:56 PM »

  Slag,

  Your latest post has made Wine Valley a must play. I can see the genius behind the contours.

  Anthony


Norbert P

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Re: Wine Valley Golf Club - Walla Walla, Washington
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2008, 03:11:26 PM »
Tom F, thanks for chiming in, those are some fine photos. I especially like the lighting and composition on the full frontal 15th with the wasteland (Barchan Bight?  (Geo-nerds might understand that)).  Is was fun having you out there and glad you liked what you saw.  Next time you'll get to play all 18. Methinks only 17 is still too tender for play at this time.

Dick, there is a big hill with big banks o' bunkers between 11 and 14 greens that separates them. 

The guy with the stogie is the world famous Jay Kenyon. Pray that your daughters never meet him. They will be powerless in his spell.
"Golf is only meant to be a small part of one’s life, centering around health, relaxation and having fun with friends/family." R"C"M

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