The 12th at Garden City - The mounds were originally part of the green

[Mike_Cirba]

This morning a group of us were doing some research and I came upon a very cool article that describes the changes Travis did to the course in tthe early 1900s.

It talks about the original 12th being pretty easy to make a 3, because the green was not closely guarded and it was a short par four.

The article talks about the new hole being about 270, with a huge bunker across the front, and large mounding that is part of the green, and how much tougher it would be now and that the smart play would be to place an iron short and then pitch on.

Someone who isn't a member here any longer took a picture of the article, which ran two pages and described other changes.   I'm hopeful it will make it's way onto this thread at some point.

Another neat little ditty I ran across was a 1906 letter from CB Macdonald, sent from Great Britain, to his friends here telling them about his planning for the "Ideal Course".

All in all, a pretty productive morning followed by some pretty good golf.

[Patrick_Mucci]

This morning a group of us were doing some research and I came upon a very cool article that describes the changes Travis did to the course in tthe early 1900s.

It talks about the original 12th being pretty easy to make a 3, because the green was not closely guarded and it was a short par four.

Mike,

I have a tough time making threes on par 3's let alone making threes on par 4's, so I don't know where you got the information that it was an easy, birdie 3

The article talks about the new hole being about 270, with a huge bunker across the front, and large mounding that is part of the green, and how much tougher it would be now and that the smart play would be to place an iron short and then pitch on.

That's still a par 4 and I don't see, at 270 yards, why it would be a more difficult hole.  Could you post the article ?

Someone who isn't a member here any longer took a picture of the article, which ran two pages and described other changes.   I'm hopeful it will make it's way onto this thread at some point.

Paging Tom MacWood ?

Another neat little ditty I ran across was a 1906 letter from CB Macdonald, sent from Great Britain, to his friends here telling them about his planning for the "Ideal Course".

All in all, a pretty productive morning followed by some pretty good golf.

[Mike_Cirba]

Patrick,

We immediately thought you'd be interested and no, Tom Mac wasn't there.

We'll be sure you get a copy of both.  They are excellent articles.

Mike

[JMorgan]

Someone who isn't a member here any longer took a picture of the article, which ran two pages and described other changes.   I'm hopeful it will make it's way onto this thread at some point.

Me, too, Mike.  And bring that bonehead Wayne back with it.

[Jeff_Brauer]

Mike,

Thanks for that info, although I never really doubted that they were from the shadings of the photographs.  I hope to see that article posted.

[Tom Naccarato]

Wayne was the only one ever really bringing that into question. From all accounts that I've read the mounds were in play; as well as thge stuff Tom Paul had posted some time ago from Mel Lucas.

I say get that man a log-in! He would be a great guy to pick his brain.