"TEPaul,
How many first time golfers would ever consider trying the "Zorro" putt, especially in a competition ?
That putt takes a lot of practice and a lot more nerve."
Patrick:
I have no idea how many first time golfers would consider trying that putt or would even recognize it. Does that matter? The point is, it is there and it can be done.
This kinda gets into something I learned from Bill Coore when they were building Friars Head and the 7th green. He was just going apeshit over a potential putt and chip on a part of that hole. Then I said: "Bill, how many golfers do you think would even recognize that it's possible?", and he said: "I don't know but at least it is there and it's possible."
Patrick, THIS is what really great architecture is all about and it's those kinds of architects who can visualize that kind of nuance that it emanates from!
Speaking of the 2nd green at PV----most do not know that Colt wanted to put it about 20-30 yards to the left and he wanted to put the tee for #3 at about the back middle of the present 2nd green. Crump would not have that and he put it where he originally had it on his routing before Colt arrived.
However, in Colt's hole by hole booklet that really doesn't have any internal (vertical) green contouring on it on any of the holes or green areas he drew in that booklet or on the big map we bought off Ebay, there is one really interesting little thing on the top of the page on that particular hole---eg #2. On the top of it there is this little doodle that matches the swales and inline rolls on that green if viewed from the front. Who did that little doodle? I have no idea but I doubt it was Colt. More likely Crump after Colt left since he did do the green in a place where it is now and to the right of where Colt proposed it. Plus what was used to mark it on the page was different than what Colt used in his booklet.