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J_ Crisham

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Alcohol Free Private Courses
« on: September 11, 2008, 07:49:38 PM »
This past week I had the privelige of playing as a guest at one of the top private clubs in the Midwest. Prior to teeing off the pro very politely informed us of some club policies one of which was that no alcohol is allowed on their grounds. Since I rarely drink this was no problem for me. Is this a common practice? I play in Chicago where drinking is the norm.  What say you all?    Jack

Bill_McBride

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2008, 08:09:03 PM »
I don't drink on the golf course but I make up for it in the grill room.

Are you saying the entire club, inside and out, is dry?  That sounds downright un-American, subversive and discriminatory to me.  ;D

JNC Lyon

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2008, 08:13:37 PM »
Not allowing alcohol on the course is not a bad idea.  I believe some of the worst behavior on the golf course (slow play, poor etiquette, etc.) is caused by alcohol consumption.
"That's why Oscar can't see that!" - Philip E. "Timmy" Thomas

PThomas

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2008, 08:16:35 PM »
I don't drink on the golf course but I make up for it in the grill room.

Are you saying the entire club, inside and out, is dry?  That sounds downright un-American, subversive and discriminatory to me.  ;D

any man like you Ace that buys me beers after his first hole-in-one is allright by me ;)
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

J_ Crisham

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2008, 08:18:59 PM »
I don't drink on the golf course but I make up for it in the grill room.

Are you saying the entire club, inside and out, is dry?  That sounds downright un-American, subversive and discriminatory to me.  ;D
Bill, I'm not sure about the clubhouse as it was seperate from the proshop. I did not venture in the clubhouse as an unaccompanied guest. I would add that this is a Doak's Gourmet's Choice club. I would also add that the greens could drive one to drink! ;)

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2008, 09:33:39 PM »
Odd policy unless the county is dry. Oh well what does this have to do with golf design. Fewer bathrooms maybe.

Mark Bourgeois

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2008, 09:36:35 PM »
Odd policy unless the county is dry. Oh well what does this have to do with golf design. Fewer bathrooms maybe.

Help architects remember to design a full 18 holes?

Brian_Sleeman

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2008, 10:47:36 PM »
I think I know the club and I may have even been the pro ;)

If that's the case, alcohol is permitted in the clubhouse only.

rjsimper

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 10:48:33 PM »
I recently played at an excellent private club that does not have a liquor license.  Club events are strictly BYOB.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 10:54:20 PM »
There's a private club in Provo, UT which I'm pretty sure is dry....

Bob_Huntley

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2008, 11:22:14 PM »
I do believe, that at the end of the dayand after a stirring match, that a small dram or a gin and tonic, is not a soul destroying experience. What is it with abolitionists? If the county is dry, I can well understand but for a golf club to prohibit alcohol is almost like a death wish.

Of course, Utah is different, they oppose a Coke and tea and coffee. A pity.

Bob

Richard Boult

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2008, 11:34:57 PM »
quite the opposite of my experience playing in Canada... seemed every group I joined as a single included locals lighting up doobies.  they were kind of fun to play with... even though I didn't partake.

TX Golf

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2008, 01:58:40 AM »
Being young and lacking money the idea of BYOB sounds great to me. A twelve pack at the store is a hell of a lot cheaper than four dollar beers at the golf course!!! Haha

Alan Gard

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2008, 08:10:59 AM »
I had two very different alcohol-related golf experiences this past week (though they were related to public courses).

One was at High Point.  We got there around noon and were planning to eat lunch.  We got to the grill room and had to wait about 15 - 20 minutes while three foursomes were getting a six-pack (each) to go in course-provided foldable coolers.  These guys were all dressed in the same white golf shirts with some three-letter logo on the left and nicknames like "Gangbang" and "Marion Berry" (sic) on them.  To top it all off, one guy was wearing his golf shirt with blue running shorts.  Thankfully, they were playing the back nine.  Given the challenges that can await on that nine holes, I wonder how many holes out of the 108 played by those three foursomes were completed under the rules of golf.

A couple days later, we got to our hotel.  Two guys were outside smoking and chatted us up as we were carrying our golf bags inside.  They asked us where we were playing.  We said we were playing Pilgrim's Run the next morning.  They talked about how they had played there that day and gotten rained on the whole time.  And then one of them gets this very serious look on his face and says (I'm probably paraphrasing) "One thing you really should know...They don't allow any alcohol at all on the course."  We just kind of chuckled as none of us are big drinkers.  After hearing this he made it a point to reiterate, "No, really.  There's no alcohol in the clubhouse and no alcohol is allowed to be brought in."  Apparently, the alcohol policy was more important to him than talking about the green complexes or other challenges that awaited us.  At least he wasn't wearing running shorts.

Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2008, 08:15:27 AM »
On the other hand, there is a private club in the Philly 'burbs near me that does serve alcohol. Apparently, they have raised their prices for the "house" glass of wine from $7 to $9 and approximately 30 members have submitted their resignations!


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John Kavanaugh

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2008, 08:17:12 AM »
I had two very different alcohol-related golf experiences this past week (though they were related to public courses).

One was at High Point.  We got there around noon and were planning to eat lunch.  We got to the grill room and had to wait about 15 - 20 minutes while three foursomes were getting a six-pack (each) to go in course-provided foldable coolers.  These guys were all dressed in the same white golf shirts with some three-letter logo on the left and nicknames like "Gangbang" and "Marion Berry" (sic) on them.  To top it all off, one guy was wearing his golf shirt with blue running shorts.  Thankfully, they were playing the back nine.  Given the challenges that can await on that nine holes, I wonder how many holes out of the 108 played by those three foursomes were completed under the rules of golf.

A couple days later, we got to our hotel.  Two guys were outside smoking and chatted us up as we were carrying our golf bags inside.  They asked us where we were playing.  We said we were playing Pilgrim's Run the next morning.  They talked about how they had played there that day and gotten rained on the whole time.  And then one of them gets this very serious look on his face and says (I'm probably paraphrasing) "One thing you really should know...They don't allow any alcohol at all on the course."  We just kind of chuckled as none of us are big drinkers.  After hearing this he made it a point to reiterate, "No, really.  There's no alcohol in the clubhouse and no alcohol is allowed to be brought in."  Apparently, the alcohol policy was more important to him than talking about the green complexes or other challenges that awaited us.  At least he wasn't wearing running shorts.

Alan,

Judging by your tone perhaps he could tell you needed a drink.  btw:  Why were you carrying your golf bags into your hotel?

Craig Van Egmond

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2008, 08:55:18 AM »

I always thought private clubs and alcohol went hand in hand.

I knew one club in Seattle that fired their bartender for mixing "weak" drinks,




John Kavanaugh

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2008, 09:05:10 AM »
I've seen pros fired for weak drinks.  I hit the jackpot yesterday at the Sullivan, IN Elks course.  Ordered a Maker's and Diet to get things started and was initially shocked to see the bottle on empty with perhaps a shot laying in the bottom begging for consumption.  The lady wetted my ice and went to get a fresh bottle.  Knowing I was in a rush to get to the tee she did not have time to install the rush killer and poured bareback into my waiting cup.  How much I ask...$3...That is how you run a club.

Mike Hendren

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2008, 09:09:46 AM »
Farm Links in Sylacauga, Alabama is open to the public six days a week and is alcohol-free.

Mike
Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

bill_k

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2008, 10:11:35 AM »
Lake Junaluska Golf Course-25 minutes west of Asheville, NC is alcohol free...
It is owned by the world Methodist Assembly.

Tim Bert

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2008, 10:53:50 AM »
I think I know the club and I may have even been the pro ;)

If that's the case, alcohol is permitted in the clubhouse only.

Have you ever putted off the 10th green?  :)

Nick_Christopher

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2008, 10:53:57 AM »
Crystal Downs has always had that policy on the course and in the proshop.  The exception is the member-guest when beers are served at the various social functions.  The club is somewhat unique in that it has a clubhouse separate from the golf proshop, albeit just up the hill.  Drinks are poured stiffly and nightly in the clubhouse.  The drawback is that bar doesn't open until late in the afternoon.  It is a bit of a throwback to more conservative times, but I have rarely heard a member complain.  Although I have heard several guests express shock and confusion!

Brian_Sleeman

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2008, 11:53:10 AM »
Have you ever putted off the 10th green?  :)

Sure - and the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 8th, 9th, 11th, 13th, 15th, 16th, 17th, and 18th!

John Moore II

Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2008, 12:59:04 PM »
There's a private club in Provo, UT which I'm pretty sure is dry....

And I'm sure there are private clubs in Salt Lake City, Logan, Bountiful, and any number of other cities in Utah which are dry.... ;)

Kalen Braley

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Re: Alcohol Free Private Courses
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2008, 01:32:54 PM »
There's a private club in Provo, UT which I'm pretty sure is dry....

And I'm sure there are private clubs in Salt Lake City, Logan, Bountiful, and any number of other cities in Utah which are dry.... ;)


Its only Utah County a.k.a Happy Valley that is stocked to the gills with Mormons, 85-90% saturation rate.  Salt Lake County I beleive is no longer majority Mormon, but think its still just short of 50%.

Either way, Utah has cured me of social drinking as there is really no place to get a good drink.  Paying $8 for a watered down Margarita got really old quick...