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Ran Morrissett

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Name This Course
« on: July 22, 2008, 06:30:08 PM »
One can’t help but go around Prairie Dunes and have it reinforced how crucial sandy soil is to great golf. I recently had the good fortune to tour the following course that capitalizes on its sandy environs in stark contrast to the other courses in the area. The hazards are well placed with central bunkers as we see below. Though visually dramatic, the holes lay quietly in their natural surrounds. To the credit of the architect, some of the greens like the eighth are truly lay of the land, allowing the golfer to soak up the environment that has captivated golfers for more than a century. Can you guess where this course is?



The 255 yard seventh above may seem like a beast but the ground game option of banking a ball in from well left of the green actually makes it quite fun to play.



The golfer on the 205 yard downhill par three sixteenth has just putted up and over the spine that he is walking over. Having played a lot of golf with the gentleman in the photo, his soon-to-be three putt was no surprise.



This reachable 520 yard par five swings left before climbing a steep sandy slope not unlike the second at Pine Valley. As we saw at Birkdale, it’s great to have a penultimate hole where an eagle is possible.






As seen 290 yards from the tee both from the left (upper photo) and right (lower photo), a series of cross bunkers bisect the fairway at the 410 yard Home hole. Impressively, the natural vegetation is left in its raw form.

Guess this course.

Cheers,

Michael Moore

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Re: Name This Course
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2008, 06:35:25 PM »
I guess that new Coore and Crenshaw deal in the Pinehurst area of North Carolina. The Dormie Club?

If that's not Coore and Crenshaw I'll eat my persimmon three wood.
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Garland Bayley

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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2008, 06:51:35 PM »
I was going to say the Pihe Hills of NC too. I'm guessing MM got it right.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Chip Gaskins

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2008, 07:49:25 PM »
I have to think Michael Moore is correct as well.  Though that looks a lot further along in the design/grow in than I thought......man does it look good.  You have to love a 410 yard finishing hole.  No 485 yard brute for C&C.  I can see a little of Bandon Trails #13 in that first picture.

mark chalfant

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 07:59:38 PM »
I think  it's gracing either Raleigh, Clementon,or   Heaven



Thanks for the  photos  !

David Stamm

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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 08:01:03 PM »
It looks very C&C to me as well.....
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Bill_McBride

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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 08:01:25 PM »
Some of it kind of looks like Friars Head in the Sandhills of NC, so I'll agree without having seen the Dormie Club.

But I now want to!

Willie_Dow

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 08:08:49 PM »
How about Hidden Creek ?

Pete_Pittock

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2008, 08:46:25 PM »
Not Hidden Creek. The descriptions of the holes doesn't match the H C scorecard.

Hint: http://www.bencrenshaw.com/MainNews.htm about 75% down bubble

David Lott

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2008, 08:50:28 PM »
I haven't a clue but I want to go there.
David Lott

Paul Jones

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2008, 08:55:53 PM »
Cabot Links
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PThomas

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2008, 08:57:17 PM »
Dormie
199 played, only Augusta National left to play!

JR Potts

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2008, 08:58:42 PM »
Wow.  I like the looks of that a lot!

Paul Jones

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2008, 09:04:16 PM »
Austin Golf Club
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Chip Gaskins

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2008, 09:26:59 PM »
i don't think there is any doubt to where this is. 

- if you look at the areal map of where dormie is suppose to be...there is this in and out of forest thing going on. (you can usually look at the limbs on the trees that are left after clearing and usually tell how dense (if at all) the surrounding trees were.  (all the limbs at the top, really dense, limbs up and down the tree, not so dense)
- i don't think cabot links or austin have short needle pine trees like that
- it looks like bermuda grass

wonder if they will let me caddie

Dan Chapman

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« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2008, 09:46:50 PM »
Neat pictures, thank you for sharing.  I had no idea Dormie was that far along.

TEPaul

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« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 10:09:47 PM »
I agree, it's got to be The Dormie Club. I can detect the look of the later stage of growing in anywhere.

It's an interesting construction sequence,  huh, Ran? Apparently those holes are actually in play before they can even get into the other parts of the course to begin construction.

Tim Gavrich

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Re: Name This Course
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 10:12:52 PM »
Too far south to be Old Sandwich, right?
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mike_beene

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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 10:32:06 PM »
Paul,wasn't sure if you were kidding but Austin is a rocky,hilly low rainfall area from downtown and to the west(where AGC is). This looks a lot like Pine Dunnes in East Texas,but the holes don't match up to my recollection.

Bill_McBride

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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2008, 10:34:50 PM »
Austin Golf Club

Paul, it's definitely not Austin.   But I think you've got the architect(s) right.

Here's a photo off the C&C website of Austin Golf Club, typical Hill Country scrub:

« Last Edit: July 22, 2008, 10:55:35 PM by Bill_McBride »

Mike Nuzzo

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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2008, 10:36:19 PM »


Ran's new home club?

Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Philippe Binette

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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2008, 11:00:29 PM »
sugarloaf mountain ????

John_Conley

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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 12:15:23 AM »
Is this Cabot Links?  Or is that just where you posted the photos?  I thought that was closer to water.

Joel_Stewart

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 01:15:44 AM »
If it is C&C we need to thank Jeff Bradley, possibly the best bunker builder in the world.

Philippe Binette

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Re: Name This Course
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 05:51:48 AM »
not cabot links, too early

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