David,
I take a great deal of comfort knowing I am simply among many others in a long line who either misninterpret what you wrote, don't quite understand you, and then when pressed, are either called idiotic, a sleaze, agenda-driven, not really interested, misinformed, biased, unable (re: too stupid) to interpret correctly, or a host of other personal insults, often many within the same post. In fact, anyone here who has ever called your specious reasoning into account, or questioned your sometimes odd interpretation of known historical facts and wordings and question other fallacious logic tends to get the same DM treatment, with the end result that they get sh*t all over. Perhaps we should get t-shirts reading, "I survived a historical attribution discussion with David Moriarty".
Of course, that assumes they survive. Some have just chosen to leave the site, sadly, but most just avoid these historical discussions entirely.
As regards this particular issue, please show me where I said Alex Campbell was responsible for the 18-hole version of the course that opened in October 1899. Instead, I asked you why you didn't mention the book's mention of Campbell's attribution role at Brookline. Again, this is what the book says;
"The stage was set for the further addition of holes when eighteen and a half acres, bounded by Clyde and Newton Streets, were purchased in April 1898, the clubs first acquisition since the purchase of the original 105 acres in 1896. (During the first four years of the club's existence, the land had been leased). The 1898 purchase allowed TCC to build an eighteen hole golf course, although Willie Campbell wasn't available to help, as he had left in 1896, moving to Franklin Park because of his interest in promoting golf to the public."
"The hiring of Campbell's successor, Walter F. Stoddard, was announced in an 1897 notice to members...Like Campbell, Stoddard also had a brief stay, 1897-1899. Next was another Scot, and another Campbell, though no relation to Willie other than tribal. This was Alexander "Nipper" Campbell, and as new terrain became available, he would be pressed into service as a course designer."
"It is not clear what part the Golf Committee, now consisting of George Cabot, G, Herbert Windeler...had in the conception of the new layout, but given the previous committee's involvement, it is safe to assume that these members were active participants. The new eighteen hole golf course was officially opened in October, 1899."
- The Story of Golf at The Country Club, _ John de St. Jorre.
You then tried to turn that into another game of one upsmanship, scolding me for my obvious lack of reading de Jorre's book, and pointing out rather proudly that de Jorre stated that Alex Campbell didn't make it to these shores until 1900 so he couldn't possibly have been involved in the 1899 golf course.
I showed you where Alex Campbell was in fact right there in Boston, in spring of 1899, and that WIndeler brought him here.
Not bothering to even read what I posted, and still not understanding the timeline, you again last night took me to task yet again for crediting Campbell with the 1899 golf course before he even arrived here.
I never credited Campbell...I said he was here while the course was being designed and said I couldn't imagine they wouldn't have used his knowledge of courses abroad since they thought enough of him to hire him as pro at the prodigee age of 19.
It was only after Tom MacWood corrected your understanding...again...that you backed down and then proceeded to try and tell us how much you know about Alex Campbell, all of which you obviously learned in the past 24 hours.
So how about you just drop the constant personal insults and the feigned indignation and have a real discussion about these matters rather than this constant attempted filibuster where your version of the truth is the only valid one.