News:

Welcome to the Golf Club Atlas Discussion Group!

Each user is approved by the Golf Club Atlas editorial staff. For any new inquiries, please contact us.


Philip Gawith

  • Karma: +0/-0
Happy Days and Paul Daley
« on: June 27, 2008, 06:11:47 AM »
 A parcel in the post is always a fine thing, and when it is Paul's latest effort, it is especially rewarding! Today I received Golf Architecture - vol 4, A Worldwide Perspective.

I have only had a quick flip but suffice to say that just as with the previous three volumes, it is an enticing prospect. Beautifully presented with lots of very high quality contributors, including some familiar GCA friends.

It is not cheap when it gets to these shores (postage from Oz is huge!) at c £55, but I am sure it is worth every bit of it.

For those who don't own any of Paul's books, now is a good time to start!

Philip

Andrew Hastie

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 09:57:21 AM »
Phillip,
You should of ordered it on amazon 22.93 !!!


Andrew
« Last Edit: June 27, 2008, 11:10:27 AM by Andrew Hastie »

Philip Gawith

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 10:03:34 AM »
Difficult to argue with that Andrew! But in truth, I am very happy to support Paul. If you consider his ability to pull together premium contributors, which is probably just about unmatched given his pedigree in this area, then you can classify this book as nearly academic, and such books command premia!

Even at the price I am paying I doubt very much that this endeavour is likely to be more than a labour of love. I only hope the Amazon price means more people buy the book!

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 10:40:28 AM »
Can't wait to get my copy - but am seeking a signed copy.

Paul hope you reading this!!

Philip Gawith

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 10:48:21 AM »
Good point Melvyn - my book is handsomely inscribed by Paul. Eat your heart out Amazon!

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2008, 10:51:07 PM »
Hi GCA-ers,

Thank you to Philip, Melvyn and Andrew for your interest. I'm pleased with how the publication has materialised.

It is a sad, limiting fact that upon the release of each volume in the “Golf Archie” series, PRICE always rears its ugly head.   :'(

Everything is stacked against these projects getting off the ground. Unlike the turfgrass industry, one cannot charge what due investigation reveals to be sustainable. The buyers don’t wear it. By contrast, the price range for new publications in the “turf” world is $150-500, with many perched around $200. Turf publishers set these high prices because of the acknowledgement (by all stakeholders) that it operates in a niche market. Print runs, accordingly, are set very low. Surely the golf-course architecture industry is every bit as much a niche market. Perhaps, even more of a niche market?

In spite of the thrill of the work, and the enjoyment that stems from working with the most decent people imaginable, each volume takes one just that little bit closer to bankruptcy. It’s a tug-of-war, and it’s pure mathematics: Vol. One (2003) retailed at Au$90.00. Over the course of the following three volumes, the cost of producing these books has almost doubled, yet Vol. Four (2008) is retailing at Au$70.00 (Au$20 cheaper) five years later. Although it would prove unpopular for future volumes, I may need to consider implementing what the turf publishers do; namely, halving the print-run and tripling the price. Pumping out Golf Archie Vol. Four at Au$70.00 is among the most irresponsible things I’ve ever done in business.

Mindful of the litigious potential of the airwaves, let me just say that the presence of Amazon is (toned down) a win-loss scenario. For Andrew Hastie: it’s a huge win, enabling him to get a quality 384pps book for “nicks”. It virtually fell off the truck, mate! For niche publishers … Amazon plunges the knife and then twists clockwise and anti-clockwise in equal parts. Moreover, it sells the perception that $22 is “the price”. When I try and sell the book at a more realistic price, it seems, by comparison, to be excessive. Hmmm. Granted, the firm does assist with exposure.

Over the course of the series, all combinations have been trialed, such as doing without distributors in UK and USA, purely making do with deliveries from Australia. The results have been variable.

The availability of Golf Archie Vol. Four is as follows:

1. US deliveries:
Pelican Publishing can supply anywhere in North America for the usual US postal rates;

2. UK deliveries:
Aurum Press can supply UK readers;

3. Australia and other countries:
I can supply from Australia

Note: personalised copies are welcomed and can only be supplied from Australian stock.

Limited edition:
The numbered, leatherbound edition (100 copies only) is available from Australia. Priced at Au$300.00, the Lim/Ed contains a Tip-in Page of Authenticity at the start of the book. Thirty enterprising golf enthusiasts, worldwide, have reserved a number for life. These include Justin Ryan (Mr 4), Scott Wood Jr (Mr 14), Dunlop White 111 (Mr 49), Ian Lawson (Mr 50), Mark Rathert (Mr 52) Todd Housteau (Mr 61), Pieter Roef (Mr 66), Mike Nuzzo (Mr 69) Gerald Stratford (Mr 95), to name a few. In addition the Golf Archie series, they also possess the same numbered Lim/Ed copies for The Sandbelt, Favourite Holes by Design and Links Golf.   

Special offer on 4-book purchase (dispatched from Australia, only):
The Vols. 1–4 set (standard edition) is available for Au$180, plus postage. The $100 “set” discount compensates purchasers for the anticipated $100-120 postal charge to non-Australian destinations.   

P Daley contact:
fswing@bigpond.net.au
www.fullswinggolf.com.au
 

 

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2008, 11:48:28 PM »
These are the featured golf clubs/courses appearing in Golf Archie Vol. Four. References to many other courses exist, too, but they are isolated and used to reinforce a writer's premise. 
------------------------------------------------

Magenta Shores, Australia; Garden City, USA; Bayonne, USA; The Netherlands: various courses; The Ridge at Manitou, Canada; Riversdale Golf Club, Australia; The Ivanhoe Club, USA; Iceland courses: various
Erin Hills, USA; The Castle Course, St Andrews, Scotland; Saguaro Course at We-Ko-Pa, USA; Primland Golf Club, USA; Settlers Run, Australia; The Golf Club Kennedy Bay, Australia; Sunnehanna, USA; Las Palomas, USA; The Peninsula Country Golf Club, Australia; Fossil Trace Golf Club, USA; The Old Course, Scotland; Black Mountain, Thailand; Sebonack Golf Club, USA; Golf in Belgium: various; Prairie Dunes, USA; The Royal Melbourne Golf Club, Australia; Tobacco Road Golf Club, USA; Rye Golf Club, England; Pine Needles Golf Club, USA; Fishers Island, USA; Askernish, Scotland; Wolf Point, USA' Haugaland Golf Klubb, Norway; The golf course at Taboo, Canada; The Bedford Springs Resort Old course, USA; Ceann Sibeal (Kee-ownn She-bale) or Dingle Golf Links, Ireland; The Fairmont at St Andrews, Scotland; Ekwanok Golf Club, USA; Royal Sydney Golf Club, Australia
---------------------------------



Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 12:03:33 AM »
"Golf Archie" Vol. Four essays: titles and authors. 

INTRODUCTION: Paul Daley
FORWORD: Michael Hurdzan
Magenta Shores, Australia / Ross Watson
Could we successfully build Garden City, USA, today? / Jeff Mingay
Let there be links: Bayonne, USA / Colin Sheehan
Harry S. Colt in The Netherlands: a surprising legacy / Frank Pont
In the public arena / Kelly Blake Moran
The Ridge at Manitou, Canada / Lorne Rubenstein
Riversdale Golf Club, Australia / Fiona Langford and Jonathan McLeery    
PICTURE ESSAY: CLUB IVANHOE, USA
Designing from the outside in / Tom Doak
The Donald Ross Golf Society’s restoration guidelines /W Dunlop White111and Michael J. Fay
Iceland: a golf course in every village / Edwin Roald
The evolution of Erin Hills, USA / Michael Hurdzan
The Castle Course, St Andrews, Scotland / David McLay Kidd
The New ‘Out There’: Taliesin West and the Saguaro Course at We-Ko-Pa /Thomas Dunne
Primland, USA / Donald Steel
PICTURE ESSAY: SETTLERS RUN, Australia
Creation of The Golf Club Kennedy Bay, Australia / Michael Coate
Curators of a master’s design: Sunnehanna, USA / George P. Wolfe
My addiction to sand / Forrest Richardson
A simple yet radical course renovation: Peninsula Country Golf Club, Australia / Gary Richardson
Sixty-four million years in the making: Fossil Trace, USA / Mitch Scarborough
Evolving green speeds and pin positions at the Old Course, St Andrews / Scott Macpherson
PICTURE ESSAY: BLACK MOUNTAIN, Thailand
Hammering out a collaboration on Sebonack, USA / Brad Klein
Protecting America’s historic golf courses / Kevin W. Rich
The upside of a golf and real-estate marriage / Mike Nuzzo
Golf in Belgium / Peter Klerkx
What would Perry Maxwell do? / Chris Clouser
Who’s afraid of Ernie Els? / John Green
PICTURE ESSAY: COURSE PORTRAITS
Charlie Conners, golf-course architect / Jim Allen
Tobacco Road Golf Club and Pulp Fiction: years ahead of their time / Jay Flemma
Ryebrows: The Sleeper ‘Eyebrows’ at Rye, England / Neil Crafter
Pine Needles, USA / John Fought
Fishers Island, USA    / Ed Getka
Stepping back in time: Askernish, Scotland / Martin Ebert
Ode to the mountain: golf in stone and sand / Phil Ryan
PICTURE ESSAY: WOLF POINT CLUB, USA
Converted turf conditions and personal course presentation preferences / Joe Hancock
A rocky experience: Haugaland Golf Klubb, Norway   / Svein Olsnes
The golf course at Taboo, Canada / Ron Garl
The Bedford Springs Resort Old course, USA / Ron Forse    
Ceann Sibeal (Kee-ownn She-bale) or Dingle Golf Links, Ireland / Jeff Howes
PICTURE ESSAY: FAIRMONT AT ST ANDREWS, Scotland
The evolution of Ekwanok, USA / Bob Labbance 
Upgrading the layout at Royal Sydney Golf Club, Australia / Ross Watson

Garland Bayley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2008, 12:49:54 AM »
... Mike Nuzzo (Mr 69) ...

Wow Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now we know why you are the creator of "Wolf" Point.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2008, 04:13:22 AM »
Garland:

You have it in one! "Nuz" is 'hungry like the wolf' and, being a numbers man, has nailed the perfect one.  :D

Andrew Hastie

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2008, 05:44:01 AM »
Philip & Paul

I just ordered my copy with Amazon, unfortunately it's out of stock, or not yet in Stock.

So there are indeed advantages in going to the source.

Andrew ;)
« Last Edit: June 28, 2008, 06:51:02 AM by Andrew Hastie »

Andrew Bertram

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 08:06:08 PM »
Paul

Congrats on the new book.

Cannot wait to get it into my hands.

Could I please arrange a signed leather copy for myself as well as some stock for the Shop

I will be at the Yarra most of this coming week.

Andrew


Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2008, 08:21:38 PM »
Andrew B:
Super work!  :) I'll "saddle" you up with a personalised leather copy and will search for the lowest available number between 1-100. We'll knock up an ageeable wholesale rate for the V.4 pro-shop sales. BTW ... the designers of the new Yarra Yarra clubhouse have really nailed a smart design. Members can be fickle, but I hope they like their new post-round watering hole. 

Andrew H:
Hang tight: I'm sure the Big A will be back in stock before long.  ;)

Andrew Bertram

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2008, 08:31:10 PM »
paul 


The members are very hapy, the club is super busy with functions of all types, including golf on teh course.

The course is in pretty good shape and the membership is happy, you can't ask for much more.

Andrew

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2008, 10:33:54 PM »
Andrew: that's great news. You could sell the happy-member recipe to other clubs that don't quite hit the mark. I'm delivering the books to YYGC this afternoon.


Forrest Richardson

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2008, 11:09:32 AM »
Paul — Although the Mexican people often consider the USA "their" country, The Links at Las Palomas remains firmly in Mexico ! — not the USA.

The book, by the way, is a lovely addition to anyone's library. Among its most wonderful pages is the shortest-ever writing by Tom Doak, a sort-of complaint about using plans to form golf courses. The book's photography, overall, is very good. I have always enjoyed the diversity of the topics and the range of the authors. Well done, Paul!
« Last Edit: June 29, 2008, 11:12:22 AM by Forrest Richardson »
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
    www.golfgroupltd.com
    www.golframes.com

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2008, 04:07:10 PM »
Forrest:

Thank you for your generous feedback about "Golf Archie" Vol. Four, and for your excellent contribution with 'My addiction to sand.' Las Palomas sure is in Mexico, as correctly listed throughout the publication. Sorry to spook you; I'm assuming you got the "USA" from the list I hastily rustled together.

Forrest Richardson

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2008, 04:20:15 PM »
I did, my friend. I have just read another few essays...it is a terrific volume and I am already dusting the shelf off for VOL. V !

+++


— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
    www.golfgroupltd.com
    www.golframes.com

Andrew Hastie

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2008, 02:26:50 AM »
Philip & Paul
Not so happy days!
My copy has now been delayed till 14 August.
I certainly wouldn't recommend  Amazon anymore.

The suspense is killing me.

Andrew


Mike_Clayton

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2008, 03:01:19 AM »
Paul,

This might be a really stupid idea but Mike Cocking and I were talking about it in the office yesterday.
We thought an edition that collected the best essays of the series together - perhaps best done after Volume 5 -  with some from Favourite Holes by Design would be a fantastic book.

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2008, 04:11:39 AM »

Andrew: It would the easiest matter to be cynical about Amazon, but I hope it comes to the party for you, and delivers, before that date.  Suspense is good; but generally only when watching an Alfred Hitchcock movie.

Mike: You’ve got me worried --- my office must be bugged! Either that, or it’s a case of “hats off” to you and Michael Cocking. It’s not a dumb idea at all. Indeed I've been quietly working on such a book, “Best of Golf Archie” for the last few months, but taking it right out of the niche market we operate in. It’s being designed for consumption into the huge “generalist” golf book market, whereby, the manuscript will be sold to a large US publisher --- any outfit with half a clue about marketing will suffice. Well that’s the aim, anyhow. There will be fewer words by a factor five; less plans; less conjecture; less principals and practices; less references to golf architects. It may be a dull book, as we know it; but it could be a good seller and appeal to the “weekend warrior”, allowing an influx of funds to ensure that more “Golf Archie” volumes are forthcoming. Meanwhile, Vol. Five is fully subscribed, and looks a beauty.

Bill_McBride

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2008, 04:28:10 PM »
"Golf Archie" Vol. Four essays: titles and authors. 

INTRODUCTION: Paul Daley
FORWORD: Michael Hurdzan
Magenta Shores, Australia / Ross Watson
Could we successfully build Garden City, USA, today? / Jeff Mingay
Let there be links: Bayonne, USA / Colin Sheehan
Harry S. Colt in The Netherlands: a surprising legacy / Frank Pont
In the public arena / Kelly Blake Moran
The Ridge at Manitou, Canada / Lorne Rubenstein
Riversdale Golf Club, Australia / Fiona Langford and Jonathan McLeery    
PICTURE ESSAY: CLUB IVANHOE, USA
Designing from the outside in / Tom Doak
The Donald Ross Golf Society’s restoration guidelines /W Dunlop White111and Michael J. Fay
Iceland: a golf course in every village / Edwin Roald
The evolution of Erin Hills, USA / Michael Hurdzan
The Castle Course, St Andrews, Scotland / David McLay Kidd
The New ‘Out There’: Taliesin West and the Saguaro Course at We-Ko-Pa /Thomas Dunne
Primland, USA / Donald Steel
PICTURE ESSAY: SETTLERS RUN, Australia
Creation of The Golf Club Kennedy Bay, Australia / Michael Coate
Curators of a master’s design: Sunnehanna, USA / George P. Wolfe
My addiction to sand / Forrest Richardson
A simple yet radical course renovation: Peninsula Country Golf Club, Australia / Gary Richardson
Sixty-four million years in the making: Fossil Trace, USA / Mitch Scarborough
Evolving green speeds and pin positions at the Old Course, St Andrews / Scott Macpherson
PICTURE ESSAY: BLACK MOUNTAIN, Thailand
Hammering out a collaboration on Sebonack, USA / Brad Klein
Protecting America’s historic golf courses / Kevin W. Rich
The upside of a golf and real-estate marriage / Mike Nuzzo
Golf in Belgium / Peter Klerkx
What would Perry Maxwell do? / Chris Clouser
Who’s afraid of Ernie Els? / John Green
PICTURE ESSAY: COURSE PORTRAITS
Charlie Conners, golf-course architect / Jim Allen
Tobacco Road Golf Club and Pulp Fiction: years ahead of their time / Jay Flemma
Ryebrows: The Sleeper ‘Eyebrows’ at Rye, England / Neil Crafter
Pine Needles, USA / John Fought
Fishers Island, USA    / Ed Getka
Stepping back in time: Askernish, Scotland / Martin Ebert
Ode to the mountain: golf in stone and sand / Phil Ryan
PICTURE ESSAY: WOLF POINT CLUB, USA
Converted turf conditions and personal course presentation preferences / Joe Hancock
A rocky experience: Haugaland Golf Klubb, Norway   / Svein Olsnes
The golf course at Taboo, Canada / Ron Garl
The Bedford Springs Resort Old course, USA / Ron Forse    
Ceann Sibeal (Kee-ownn She-bale) or Dingle Golf Links, Ireland / Jeff Howes
PICTURE ESSAY: FAIRMONT AT ST ANDREWS, Scotland
The evolution of Ekwanok, USA / Bob Labbance 
Upgrading the layout at Royal Sydney Golf Club, Australia / Ross Watson


I'm curious about Forrest Richardson's addiction to sand.

How does he ingest the stuff?  ???

And vis a vis his Links at Las Palomas in Mexico - it's a brilliant mix of high in the dunes holes and flat between the lagoons holes, one of the most interesting combination of terrains anywhere.  Those who are looking for something completely different should consider a visit.

As an added bonus, there are a couple of caddies with no English skills who can communicate the reading of the contoured greens via creative sign language!

Forrest Richardson

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2008, 04:38:16 PM »
How ironic Bill...I am down here now. Plan on playing tomorrow before the tequila crowd gets up to take in some golf. Course appears in excellent shape. A bit windy today, but that makes for interesting golf.
— Forrest Richardson, Golf Course Architect/ASGCA
    www.golfgroupltd.com
    www.golframes.com

Paul_Daley

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 07:17:50 AM »
Hi Bill:

Forrest’s grains of sand are so minute, they are highly digestible.  :D
More than a fleeting reference to sand, he confesses his addiction to the matter on the first two lines, kicking off with his childhood experiences of sand—building miniature playhouses, compounds and golf courses, playing at the beach, and so forth—where, he all but ate it! Moreover, Forrest conveys how these experiences helped cast the die towards his life in golf-course architecture. This essay is hardly “dry”, ever-linking to golf: sand-fencing; “inverted bunkers”, comprising sandy mounds stabilised by native plants; top-dressing with sand; designing and shaping for sand considerations—acknowledged as the ideal conditions for golf. FR goes on to outline the difference between sand, silt and dust, among other “sandy” fascinations.



Bill_McBride

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re: Happy Days and Paul Daley
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 06:15:28 PM »
Hi Bill:

Forrest’s grains of sand are so minute, they are highly digestible.  :D
More than a fleeting reference to sand, he confesses his addiction to the matter on the first two lines, kicking off with his childhood experiences of sand—building miniature playhouses, compounds and golf courses, playing at the beach, and so forth—where, he all but ate it! Moreover, Forrest conveys how these experiences helped cast the die towards his life in golf-course architecture. This essay is hardly “dry”, ever-linking to golf: sand-fencing; “inverted bunkers”, comprising sandy mounds stabilised by native plants; top-dressing with sand; designing and shaping for sand considerations—acknowledged as the ideal conditions for golf. FR goes on to outline the difference between sand, silt and dust, among other “sandy” fascinations.


Forrest's Links at Las Palomas there does have some great bunkering set in what are obviously very windy conditions.  There are fences and bulkheads, very much Prestwick style, to maintain the sand in the bunkers.  All in all it's very interesting, and, as I have said before, worth a trip to Puerto Pensaco to have a look.

Tags:
Tags:

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function theme_linktree()
Back