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W.H. Cosgrove

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Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« on: May 01, 2008, 08:48:29 AM »
Thought those of you whohave been to Chambers would like to know about "the tree."

http://www.thenewstribune.com/front/topphoto/story/348955.html

Any suggested penalties whe the litlle weasel get caught?  Maybe they could make him caddie for ME!  I can think of a few ways to make his life miserable. >:(

tlavin

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 09:16:30 AM »
I think that I shall never hear

A tale of a golf course tree

That brings a tear...

W.H. Cosgrove

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 09:20:40 AM »
“If they were just being drunk and stupid, they should turn themselves in,” Troyer said.

He has to be kidding.  Does Washington state give special leniancy to crimes committed while being drunk and stupid?  I would think you would have to be drunk and stupid to turn yourself in. 

It never helped me! 8)

BVince

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 10:12:33 AM »
That is a shame, it is always unfortunate to hear when people do senseless acts of crime. 
If profanity had an influence on the flight of the ball, the game of golf would be played far better than it is. - Horace Hutchinson

Mike Bowline

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 12:38:18 PM »
And how ironic this occurs at the course with only ONE tree. Albeit a celebrated tree at that.

If indeed it is somebody (bodies?) who "have it out for the course" they sure picked the single iconic element of the development. Let's hope they don't continue to inflict additional damage.

And why just a few chops? Did they get scared?

Mike Nuzzo

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 01:16:12 PM »
how awful.
That was one very beautiful tree and setting.
It is a huge difference without it - imo.
Thinking of Bob, Rihc, Bill, George, Neil, Dr. Childs, & Tiger.

Garland Bayley

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 01:38:50 PM »
Weyerhauser has a ton of tree doctors nearby. Are they consulting with them?
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

David Stamm

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 01:46:42 PM »
This kind of stuff makes me  sick!!! >:( Cowards!!!
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Melvyn Morrow

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 02:00:15 PM »
I have never been keen on trees on a course, but I am against idiots, drunks or brainless morons trying to destroy other people’s property.

Could not have been a golfer as he did not finish what he started – gives you a good insight into his character. Regrettable this is a world wide disease.
 

Marty Bonnar

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 06:09:22 PM »
'Lone Stump' won't have quite the same ring, will it? ;D

Sorry for the humour but I have no other way of mentally coping with this one. I have never been to Chambers Bay, but , judging solely by the photos I have seen, I just KNOW I would LOVE it. I sincerely hope to play there one day.

I'm not an arboriculturalist, but I have seen LOTS of vandalised trees in the course of my work and I think it might be saveable.

Any thoughts maybe of an aggrieved Contractor? Local anti-golf sentiment? Nearby facility for the criminally insane?

sad,
FBD.
The White River runs dark through the heart of the Town,
Washed the people coal-black from the hole in the ground.

Kalen Braley

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 06:11:25 PM »

Any thoughts maybe of an aggrieved Contractor? Local anti-golf sentiment? Nearby facility for the criminally insane?

sad,
FBD.

Pretty good chance they would be all of the above Martin. Lone stump is brutal indeed.

They should contact the boys at Pebble, they put in a new tree of similar size I beleive on 18.  Pricey yes?  But hey just tack it on to the green fees.    :o


C. Squier

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 06:25:00 PM »
I have never been keen on trees on a course, but I am against idiots, drunks or brainless morons trying to destroy other people’s property.

Could not have been a golfer as he did not finish what he started – gives you a good insight into his character. Regrettable this is a world wide disease.
 


Amen brother.  At least they didn't use technology, a chainsaw would've taken it right down  ;)

I hate the "drunkenness" excuse too.  A person did this, not a beer.  Its a shame a person can be so jaded that they do something as senseless as this.  The good news is, whenever something as stupid as this happens in protest, people rally around the protested and make it even stronger. 

CPS

Ron Farris

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 06:29:25 PM »
Has anyone checked with the architect.
The tales of Pete Dye and tree work is legendary.

All things aside, I hope they catch the fools who did this environmental terrorist act!  Shameless, drunk or not!

Dan Chapman

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 09:27:08 PM »
Wow.  I've never been to Chambers Bay but I can't believe that.

John Moore II

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 10:10:33 PM »
I certainly do not agree with what was done, but might it not be possible to replace the tree? Or is it too large to do that?

mike_beene

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2008, 12:47:36 AM »
This guy is going to hate Thursdays.Hope they catch him.

Pete_Pittock

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2008, 01:21:06 AM »
Potential good news related from a story in the International Herald Tribune.

  Tony Tipton, project manager for Chambers Bay, said a pair of arborists visited the course Thursday to give an initial inspection on if the tree could be saved. Tipton said the person carved into the tree about 3 inches, or about 20 percent of the tree's diameter.
   Before being fully briefed on the initial inspections, course general manager Matt Allen said the arborists are more optimistic about saving the tree than expected.
  "They think there are some options for being able to save it, or attempt to save it, using some of their expertise on previous trees that have been vandalized or damaged," Tipton said.

Link: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/01/sports/GLF-Cambers-Bay-Vandalism.php

« Last Edit: May 03, 2008, 01:22:55 AM by Pete_Pittock »

Garland Bayley

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2008, 11:26:55 AM »
Pete,

I am not surprised at that. My experience in the wood cutting business as a youth would tend to indicate to me that trees suffer more damage than what appeared to me in the picture and survive.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

Doug Ralston

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2008, 12:59:02 PM »
They aught to make void this senseless act of vandalism by putting trees in every fairway! Yeah, that'd learn 'em!  :D

I am more shocked if I find it was not a GCA regular, or other group of anti-treehugger fundies.

But that is just my own axe to grind .............

Doug

Cory Brown

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2008, 07:55:34 PM »
There have been some problems with the ELF in western Washington.  It wouldn't make sense for them to cut down a tree, but nothing they do makes sense anyway.  They recently burned down a housing development, in which every home was built specifically to be environmentally friendly.

Scott Stambaugh

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2008, 11:26:21 PM »
Vandalism in Tacoma?  I don't believe it!

For those of us fortunate (or unfortunate) enough to watch the Seattle/Tacoma news every night, Ed Troyer seems to cover more ground than a Ryder Cup captain.  Instead of spending any money on a replacement tree, Pierce County should think about getting him some help.

Punishments?  How about a summer of pulling weeds out of the 'native' areas.

SS




Doug Wright

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2008, 10:37:36 AM »
"Don't worry about that tree surviving. The USGA can put up another one just like it real quick--even overnight!"

--Lon Hinkle
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Richard Choi

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2008, 02:12:25 PM »
There have been some problems with the ELF in western Washington.  It wouldn't make sense for them to cut down a tree, but nothing they do makes sense anyway.  They recently burned down a housing development, in which every home was built specifically to be environmentally friendly.

I hate environmental terrorists as much as the next guy. In fact, some ELF wacko tried to burn down my brother-in-laws house.

But let's not kid ourselves about "a housing development, in which every home was built specifically to be environmentally friendly" crap. Those homes AVERAGED 4,500 sqft. When you have a carbon footprint that big, you can't really call yourself "environmentally friendly". That is like Chevy Tahoe Hybrid calling itself green just because it get 20 mpg insted of 16 mpg.

Jeff Grossman

Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2008, 03:13:54 PM »
Since there is a thread on this I thought people might be interested in an update,

http://www.chambersbaygolf.com/layout10.asp?id=173&page=3564

Cory Brown

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Re: Axeman strikes at Chambers Bay
« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2008, 10:14:06 PM »
Scott,

I have a better punishment than a summer of pulling weeds, how about a summer of hand raking the bunkers at Chambers Bay.