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Garland Bayley

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What US Open sites are these? Fresh Meadow, followed by Englewood
« on: March 18, 2008, 05:47:54 PM »
If you have been reading the other thread, please hold off on your answer. If you want to find the answer without waiting for it to be discovered here, then go to the other thread of mine on the first page and hold off answering here.

The course here occupied 109 acres.

What year?

Who won?


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Joe Hancock

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 05:59:20 PM »
Pulte, in a playoff with Del Webb......

 ;D
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JESII

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 06:48:40 PM »
Quote from: Joe Hancock on March 18, 2008, 05:59:20 PM
Pulte, in a playoff with Del Webb......

 ;D

Just a dirt worker...come on...if you got a nickle for every time someone spit out their drink at your doing you'd be able to watch people dig in the dirt...

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Joe Hancock

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 09:25:45 PM »
Quote from: JES II on March 18, 2008, 06:48:40 PM
Quote from: Joe Hancock on March 18, 2008, 05:59:20 PM
Pulte, in a playoff with Del Webb......

 ;D

Just a dirt worker...come on...if you got a nickle for every time someone spit out their drink at your doing you'd be able to watch people dig in the dirt...



It's when I start getting nickels that I'll know I've made it...... ;D
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David Stamm

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2008, 09:31:00 PM »
How about some hints?
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Chuck Brown

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2008, 01:32:49 AM »
I think I know, but it was hard enough that I had to do a little research.

This was a fun challenge; to keep it going and to make it more fun, let me ask -- is there a clubhouse in the picture, or just outside the frame of that satellite image?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2008, 10:19:58 AM »
I don't think there is any remaining clubhouse.

Hint. It has a royal location that you hope won't go down the toilet.
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Craig Disher

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 11:32:28 AM »
The course barely survived the Depression and WWII.  The clubhouse is a memory. Garland, I think the course was located to the right of your photo.
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Norbert P

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 12:02:55 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 19, 2008, 10:19:58 AM

Hint. It has a royal location that you hope won't go down the toilet.


 Royal Kohler GC ?

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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 12:19:29 PM »
Quote from: Craig Disher on March 19, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
The course barely survived the Depression and WWII.  The clubhouse is a memory. Garland, I think the course was located to the right of your photo.

I put the location I found on the web in the center of the google earth shot. I realize this could be simply the edge of the course, which would mean the course could extend off one of the edges of the shot. The web said it was replaced by housing. It would appear that the buildings on the right edge are condos. The location given put it in the middle of the houses shown. Therefore, I suspect it is not further right in the shot.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 12:20:36 PM »
Quote from: Slag Bandoon on March 19, 2008, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 19, 2008, 10:19:58 AM

Hint. It has a royal location that you hope won't go down the toilet.


 Royal Kohler GC ?



Sorry. None of the Royal Kohler clubs have hosted an open. ;)

Besides, this is an east coast course.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2008, 12:22:47 PM »
Another hint.

I suppose a squire being highly involved would add to the royalty of the open and its location.
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Pete_Pittock

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2008, 12:34:23 PM »
Garland,
Since you've obvioulsly gone into the toilet, do you think Irish Spring soap scent would be helpful?
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Craig Disher

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2008, 12:36:30 PM »
Quote from: Garland Bayley on March 19, 2008, 12:19:29 PM
Quote from: Craig Disher on March 19, 2008, 11:32:28 AM
The course barely survived the Depression and WWII.  The clubhouse is a memory. Garland, I think the course was located to the right of your photo.

I put the location I found on the web in the center of the google earth shot. I realize this could be simply the edge of the course, which would mean the course could extend off one of the edges of the shot. The web said it was replaced by housing. It would appear that the buildings on the right edge are condos. The location given put it in the middle of the houses shown. Therefore, I suspect it is not further right in the shot.


I just sent you an IM. The extreme western part of the course would have  been visible on the right edge of the photo you posted.
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RJ_Daley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2008, 12:52:54 PM »
Is it in the windy city, and would it still have existed in any of the GCA.com community's lifetime, that they might have played there?
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2008, 12:59:16 PM »
Quote from: Pete_Pittock on March 19, 2008, 12:34:23 PM
Garland,
Since you've obvioulsly gone into the toilet, do you think Irish Spring soap scent would be helpful?

I don't know, but that is what I hang from my camellias to keep the deer from eating them.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2008, 01:30:59 PM »
Quote from: RJ_Daley on March 19, 2008, 12:52:54 PM
Is it in the windy city, and would it still have existed in any of the GCA.com community's lifetime, that they might have played there?

No Dick,

As I wrote above, it is on the east coast.

The course was redeveloped about the time I was born. So it certainly would have still existed during the lifetime of our older members. Certainly some of them would have been old enough to play golf there before the redevelopment.

It seems that the jpg that google earth created encompassed less area than I was looking at when I made it. According to Craig's information the western edge of the course would be in the very right of the picture.
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Craig Disher

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2008, 02:39:26 PM »
Adding another USOpen site to this thread. The landmarks should be somewhat familiar to anyone who's traveled on the east coast.


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RJ_Daley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2008, 02:42:54 PM »
Oh, east coast,,, oops, reading comprehension problem... ::)
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2008, 06:46:49 PM »
Hint: Even though it is NLE, it is not stale.
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Joe Hancock

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2008, 06:50:23 PM »
Is it in Flushing, NY?
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JohnH

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2008, 06:51:29 PM »
It must be "Fresh."
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Cliff Hamm

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2008, 07:08:11 PM »
Craig ... I believe that is Englewood (NJ), on 95 on the approach to the GW bridge.  I believe it was about 20 years ago that the condos which appear to the top of the pic were built.
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Garland Bayley

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2008, 08:23:16 PM »
Joe and John,

Both correct.
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Craig Disher

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Re: What US Open site is this?
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2008, 09:17:07 PM »
Cliff,
Exactly so. I95 cuts right through the middle of what was Englewood CC, site of the 1909 US Open.
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