News:

Welcome to the Golf Club Atlas Discussion Group!

Each user is approved by the Golf Club Atlas editorial staff. For any new inquiries, please contact us.


Jeffrey Prest

  • Karma: +0/-0
'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« on: October 30, 2007, 09:45:27 AM »
I've just bought the latest edition of 'The World Atlas of Golf', a mere 28 years after I bought the first one. The following courses were all mentioned in the latter but don't appear in the latest version.

I thought I'd just mention it to see if any of you have any theories as to what might have brought about this fall from grace for any of the courses referred to:

    EUROPE
    Killarney
    Olgiata
    Nueva Andalucia (now Real Club Las Brisas)
    Sotogrande


    AMERICAS
    Firestone
    Champions
    Dorado Beach
    Cajuiles (Teeth of the Dog)
    Club de Golf Mexico


    ASIA
    Singapore Island
    Royal Selangor


    AUSTRALASIA
    Royal Sydney

 

David Stamm

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 11:54:16 AM »
Jeffrey, I can only speculate, but there are SO many greats in Ireland that Killarney to me just wouldn't show up on the radar for many.


As far as Royal Sydney, Champions and Firestone, I think it's the same reason. Too many courses that are much better to include and the book can only be so big.
"The object of golf architecture is to give an intelligent purpose to the striking of a golf ball."- Max Behr

Chris_Clouser

Re:'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 01:32:10 PM »
Jeff,

I was involved with the effort as well as Jeff Mingay, Matt Ward and Dan Wexler.  Mark Rowlinson can probably chime in with more specifics, but it was determined that there were several courses in the groups that needed to be moved because there were simply much better courses out there.  We literally provided a list of over thirty courses that we would all like to see included and we didn't get nearly that many, but with those additions, some had to fall out for various reasons.  There were also several changes to the Gazetteer section of the book as well.  

Of the ones you mention the only one that surprised me was Cajuiles or Casa De Campo.  My guess is there was some other reason like the original artwork being lost or something.

The truth is there are so many courses that are deserving but only so much time to get everything put together to include them.  I think the list of courses included in this version exceeds that of the original version by quite a margin.

Mark_Rowlinson

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 02:46:08 PM »
Chris has got it pretty well spot on. We've discussed the subject on here before.

Jeffrey Prest

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 04:59:19 PM »
Thanks for your replies but I appreciate that some courses had to go. I was just interested as to why it was those I listed.

I know there'll be people on here who have played some of them and I was just trying to get their thoughts on why those tracks haven't proved as timeless as the rest.

If it's been discussed in a previous thread then by all means point me to it.


Andrew Summerell

  • Karma: +0/-0
Re:'World Atlas of Golf' - omissions
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 07:34:52 PM »
I understand the logistical difficulties of putting a book like that together, as well as pressure from the publishers to target a particular readership, but my greatest disappointment with Royal Sydney going was that it wasn’t replaced with New South Wales. Kingston Heath is another that I believe should have been promoted from the Gazatteer. Both courses rank easily within the top 40 on the world.

In saying that, I believe it is a fine publication. I would assume its largest readership is in America, so Australia would be a long way away for most of the people buying the book.

Tags:
Tags:

An Error Has Occurred!

Call to undefined function theme_linktree()
Back