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David Stamm

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Name the arch-2
« on: October 17, 2007, 10:59:13 PM »
Michael, I hope you don't mind me riding your coat tails, but here are a few more for the gang to try and figure out. Please excuse the quality of the photo's.













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Gene Greco

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 11:05:06 PM »
The first pic looks like The Dye Course at The PGA in Port St Lucie.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2007, 11:05:57 PM by Gene Greco »
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Tyler Kearns

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 11:08:08 PM »
Those "chocolate drop" mounds look like Nicklaus' Loxahatchee in Florida.

TK
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Roger Tufts

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 11:46:28 PM »
The last pic looks like Dye as well.

I really like the 2nd and 3rd. Loving the Chocolate Drops... reminds me of Essex County and Salem CC
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David_Elvins

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2007, 03:17:25 AM »
All the photos seem recognisable from "The Golf Courses of Jack Nicklaus."

An interesting book.

How close the the inside of the dogleg is that condo in the last photo!  
« Last Edit: October 18, 2007, 03:17:52 AM by David_Elvins »
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Brad Tufts

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2007, 08:53:24 AM »
Oh Rog, how Jack would love to hear you say that...ha...

I think Lox has been softened several times, I think by Jack as he used to hang out there...

Those are chocolate drops that used the cream and the clear...
« Last Edit: October 18, 2007, 08:53:48 AM by Brad Tufts »
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David Stamm

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2007, 09:58:46 AM »
It is JN. The first 3 are from Loxahatchee, the 4th from Grand Cypress and the last from Desert Highlands.
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BCrosby

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2007, 10:21:49 AM »
Anyone know if JN ever talked about borrowing from J. H. Taylor? Or Royal Mid-Surrey? Or "alpinization"?

Maybe I need to read JN's book, but that is what this stuff looks like. After a couple of steriod shots.

Bob
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 11:30:28 AM »
Ahhh...the excesses of the 70s and 80s.  I remember it only too well...

Although, I didn't know that Nicklaus dropped acid back then...whodda figured?
« Last Edit: October 18, 2007, 11:31:17 AM by MikeCirba »
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wsmorrison

Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2007, 11:32:47 AM »
My reaction to this work went from  :o (man, that's ugly stuff) to  ??? (what's the purpose) then to :P (it is nauseating) and finally to    :-\ (I feel sorry for the people that paid for it and play it).

Bob,

I think Taylor did a much better job in making it look better than this and also figuring out a strategic use of them.  If I wouldn've seen this before yesterday I might have asked JN, Jr. what the heck was his dad thinking when I saw him yesterday in Ardmore (PA, not OK).
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Mike_Cirba

Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 11:36:28 AM »
Quote from: Wayne Morrison on October 18, 2007, 11:32:47 AM
My reaction to this work went from  :o (man, that's ugly stuff) to  ??? (what's the purpose) then to :P (it is nauseating) and finally to    :-\ (I feel sorry for the people that paid for it and play it).


Wayne,

Don't feel too sorry...

Back around 1986 when I played Grand Cypress I thought it was a GREAT course!   After all, it was designed by Jack Nicklaus (my hero), it was hosting the World Cup Tournament, it was supposedly modeled after the great courses in Scotland, and was even profiled in a English Golf Magazine I had picked up while over there.

I thought the $100 fee or so at the time was a bargain to play a "professional, championship course" while at a conference there.

Amazing how things change over time.  ;)
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wsmorrison

Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2007, 11:39:39 AM »
I guess you and Jack were tripping on the same blotter back then  8)  Whooda figured  ;)
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BCrosby

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2007, 12:14:00 PM »
Wayne -

JN borrowed the concept without understanding it.

Another good use of alpinization is Somerset Hills. A very cool course.

Bob
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Jay Flemma

Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2007, 12:25:14 PM »
Quote from: Gene Greco on October 17, 2007, 11:05:06 PM
The first pic looks like The Dye Course at The PGA in Port St Lucie.
Actually, Gene, with great respect, it isn't...There are some mounds at the dye course, but it doesn't look that way excelt at number 7...and one bunker on 5.  I think JN is right becaue dye's greens would have had more movement.
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Michael Dugger

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2007, 12:27:20 PM »
Those first few must be Loxahatchee.  

My pictorial of Nicklaus courses attempted to capture some of his better, more au natural work.

This stuff here stinks....
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Matt Kardash

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2007, 05:49:22 PM »
This looks nothing like a Dye course.
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Tim Gavrich

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 06:57:36 PM »
I dunno...as silly as it looks at first, it has some appeal to me in much the way that a Wassily Kandinsky painting appeals to me.  It's weird, but I dig it.
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Marty Bonnar

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 07:02:39 PM »
No, no, no, no, no. By any reasonable judgement, this is simply wrong.

I am struck by an uncontrollable urge to squeeze these hirsute, verdant ZITS.

Yechhhhh...

FBD.
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Brock Peyer

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 07:51:01 PM »
Quote from: David Stamm on October 17, 2007, 10:59:13 PM
Michael, I hope you don't mind me riding your coat tails, but here are a few more for the gang to try and figure out. Please excuse the quality of the photo's.















Ahhhhh!!!!!  Who did that to that poor golf course?!?!?!?  I hate it.
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David Stamm

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2007, 10:01:17 PM »
Quote from: David Stamm on October 18, 2007, 09:58:46 AM
It is JN. The first 3 are from Loxahatchee, the 4th from Grand Cypress and the last from Desert Highlands.


Just in case you guys missed it, I named the pics already.
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PThomas

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Re:Name the arch-2
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2007, 10:04:09 PM »
wow, some of those mounds are really brutal :P :P ::)
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