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Jason Blasberg

What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« on: July 11, 2007, 11:08:59 PM »
Can someone provide a nice cheat sheet please?
« Last Edit: July 11, 2007, 11:10:18 PM by JKBlasberg »

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2007, 07:26:57 AM »
George Bahto's book The Evangelist of Golf does a great job of this.


He and Tom Doak are currently rethinking these and how to use them in the modern game for the new course at Bandon.  Now I hope a book comes from that...
« Last Edit: July 13, 2007, 01:39:20 AM by Tony Muldoon »
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redanman

Re:What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2007, 08:41:39 AM »
template (n)
   
Synonyms: pattern, master, stencil, model, prototype, original, outline, shape

What really is the best word to use in describing so-called template holes?

Template has always (in my profession as well as engineering, manufacturing)  indicated an exact copy to be replicated, inserted, manufactured or to use as preparation to replicate as near exactly as possible.

In software as a quick example it is a "bones" to be built upon.

CB Macdonald was inspired by these holes to create his own.

Template holes are a reference for inspiration - so of the above thesaurus "synonyms" outline probably comes closest as what one is really trying to do is be inspired by the strategies of great holes and reproduce their character, not to copy them.

Anyone better with coming up with a word that's more specific? (Funny that Jason is the word-splitting attorney, not me!) I've never really been inspired by "Template" and do confess to being a word freak as it is necessary for me to be as specific in terminology as possible.

RJ_Daley

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Re:What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2007, 09:51:38 AM »
I think George Bahto and his book are the greatest.

Here isa link to a gentleman that did a bit of an on-line tutorial.
http://members.tripod.com/silverleaf_design/architecture.htm
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George Pazin

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Re:What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2007, 10:17:14 AM »
George's book is the best, but he also does a wonderful job describing things in his feature interview on this site:

Feature Interview with George Bahto
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

George_Bahto

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Re:What are the MacDonald/Raynor template holes, anyway?
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2007, 07:47:08 PM »
"CB Macdonald was INSPIRED by these holes to create his own."

Billy V: thank you

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