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redanman

Re:Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #50 on: June 01, 2007, 12:30:13 PM »
KBM
Dan Schlaegel
both have courses near me

add
Keith Foster (getting better known)

no one's mentioned
Jeff Brauer
or is he too well known, too?

Agree that Braid is only "not well known in the USA" (centre of the Universe, you know) "Unknown Braid has a Braid Trail" to be played fer chrissake.  One's better off playing a bunch of Braid courses than the Open rota, it's easier on the pocketbook!

Garland Bayley

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Re:Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2007, 01:06:31 PM »
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no one's mentioned
Jeff Brauer
or is he too well known, too?
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Doesn't Jeff have a couple of well thought of courses in MN. I thought of mentioning Jeff, but I have only seen his course in Davis, CA, which he admits is not his best.
"I enjoy a course where the challenges are contained WITHIN it, and recovery is part of the game  not a course where the challenge is to stay ON it." Jeff Warne

KBanks

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Re:Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2007, 02:00:46 PM »
Braid may be lesser known here in the States, but even those with a passing knowledge of golf in the UK and esp. Scotland (which, is a lot of folks) know of his work. Braid was quite prolific, sort of the UK's version of Tom Bendelow, and built both championship-caliber courses and fairly rudimentary ones, particularly some on fairly constricted sites, such as Glencruitten near Oban on the western coast of Scotland.

There is a Braid Society based at Brora, I think.

Ken

Bill_McBride

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Re:Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #53 on: June 01, 2007, 04:16:11 PM »
I would love to see work by Vernon Macan and especially Alex
Findlay.  Langford, starting to rise,   is  splendid  

Mark, let me know if you'll be in Portland 6/12-25 or 8/1-23.  

Jeff_Stettner

Re:Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2007, 05:46:42 PM »
Based on his new course in Missouri and the work he completed while working with Keith Foster I would nominate Art Schaupeter. It seems that many of the Foster courses that I have enjoyed benefited from Art's touch...
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Dan Herrmann

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #55 on: April 16, 2010, 10:03:40 PM »
Bump..

A good older thread that could generate good discussion.

Sam Morrow

Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #56 on: April 16, 2010, 10:39:02 PM »
I am a fan of Mark Hayes work in the midwest.

Tim Martin

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2010, 10:48:32 PM »
Robert D. Pryde-Designed a number of good courses in Connecticut(Alling Memorial, Racebrook CC, Wethersfield CC, Pine Orchard, etc.).

Greg Chambers

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #58 on: April 16, 2010, 10:51:58 PM »
Tripp Davis.  Im a super at one of his courses.  Play it constantly, not to mention work it every day, and never tire of it.
"It's good sportsmanship to not pick up lost golf balls while they are still rolling.”

John Moore II

Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #59 on: April 16, 2010, 10:54:51 PM »
I will certainly go back and say that Gene Hamm and Ellis Maples make some real good courses that serve a large number of golfers. Most of them are affordable designs, especially ones by Gene Hamm. Each of them have a lot of courses in the Carolinas, including my first home course, where I learned the game, Silver Creek by Gene Hamm.

Dan Herrmann

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2010, 07:39:31 AM »
Jim Blaukovitch.  He builds solid fun golf.    The courses will never be on a top 100 list, but that's OK.

Jim's work serves the mid-priced market ($50'ish) and does it very well.

Tom MacWood

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2010, 08:29:23 AM »
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BCrosby

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2010, 08:33:52 AM »
Big, bad Mike Young. A talented guy with a resume of very, very good courses. 

Bob

Jud_T

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2010, 09:55:01 AM »
How about our budding leading man Mr. Urbina?
Golf is a game. We play it. Somewhere along the way we took the fun out of it and charged a premium to be punished.- - Ron Sirak

TEPaul

Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2010, 10:03:21 AM »
"Bump..
A good older thread that could generate good discussion."


When I think of "Unknowns" I think less about those peripatetic (or perhaps itinerant if one wants to be accused by MacWood of calling most of the early Scottish/English/Irish professionals "vagabonds"  ::) ) early architects who laid out routings and courses quickly and were back to their day jobs or on to somewhere else) and more about those early practitioners who were generally members of a club and not paid for their work who did a lot of the very early courses. From the photographic evidence of some of that early architecture it seemed so bad I look at it as actually pretty interesting! I also believe that since very early architecture interrelated as much as it did with the world of the horse that styles and features from the horse world such as steeplechase pits and berms and jumps really were prevalently used in early golf architecture.

But without question my favorite "lesser known" architect is super-star Tommy Birdsong (apparently a Timucuan Indian), the architect of the World's greatest hidden gem---Fernandina Beach Municipal golf course.
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Gary Slatter

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2010, 10:11:30 AM »
Rocky Rocquemore, Jeff Mingay, Charley and Rene Muylaert, Eric (can't think of his name, did Markland Woods in TO)
Gary Slatter
gary.slatter@raffles.com

Mac Plumart

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2010, 12:00:25 PM »
Brett Morrissy...have you seen this guys backyard?!?!?
Sportsman/Adventure loving golfer.

archie_struthers

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2010, 12:08:43 PM »
 :D ;D :D

Don't know if Lester George qualifies as lesser known  but I was quite taken by his passion duing the GCA summit at the Paul Bomb silo ...quite a good presentation and lots of fabulous info on the hisrtory of the Greenbriar.



ps   Lester are you and Robert friends from the CC of Virginia

Tim Johnson

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2010, 12:24:29 PM »
not really sure if Eddie Hackett qualifies as an unknown but he has worked on some great courses: Carne, Enniscrone, Waterville, Ballyliffin, Connemara.
He was not the original on some of them but it his reworking has received very good reviews. His work at Carne is viewed as his greatest piece of work.

Terry Lavin

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2010, 12:44:23 PM »
Steve Smyers
Joe Lee
Keith Foster
Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.  H.L. Mencken

James Boon

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Re: Who are your Favourite "Lesser Known" Architects?
« Reply #70 on: April 18, 2010, 05:11:44 AM »
Tom Williamson, the old greenkeeper and pro from Notts GC. As he is said to have worked on most of the courses in the area where I grew up and now live, I have probably played most of his work, though how much of what now remains on these courses is his work isn't clear.

Here's a brief summary of his life that I posted on the Notts GC photo tour thread...

Tom Williamson’s career as greenkeeper, professional and club maker of Notts GC spanned more than half a century from 1896 until his death in 1950. By serving for 54 years as the clubs professional, the club believe to have set a world record for a club professional in full time service.

His first introduction to golf was as a boy when he came across the previously mentioned Mr Doleman and Mr Harris playing golf across the common before a course had been set out. He saw Mr Harris hit a ball and so ran after it and returned it to him, only to be reprimanded, and made to replace the ball exactly were he had collected it from. He would later sit under the kitchen table cleaning their clubs, as mentioned earlier.

Though he had an early introduction to golf, he wanted to work on the railways, though when he failed his eye test, and instead headed for North Berwick to learn club making at Hutchinson’s shop, which later went on to become Ben Sayers. During the first world war, he combined his work as the clubs professional, with working in a munitions factory.

He played in his first open championship in 1897 at Hoylake and went on to set another world record by playing in every open for fifty years, between 1897 and 1947, finishing 4th at Prestwick in 1914.

He was an early advocate of plasticine models of new greens, and claimed to have worked on all but one of the courses within a fifty mile radius of Nottingham! Nearby Wollaton Park, Beeston Fields, Longcliffe, Rushcliffe and Worksop are all courses designed by him, while he carried out remodelling work at Hollinwell and Sherwood Forest.


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James


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