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ed_getka

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Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2007, 09:58:42 PM »
I can't hear you, I can't hear you.... ;D
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2007, 10:09:53 PM »
Mark Rowlinson can probably tell us what you shouldn't miss on the way out to South Wales along the M4!  8)

David Quackenbush

Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2007, 11:17:24 PM »
Bill -

You may have already been to these spots, but Tenby and Ashburnham are worth checking out.  

Tenby is solid throughout with the exception of three holes towards the end (15-17, I think) that are out of the dunes land and very pedestrian.  The rest is great, classic links fun (esp. #'s 3 and 4 if I recall correctly).  The course is out a bit further west from Pennard.  

Ashburnham is a "Tale of Two Nines".  The front nine feels more like parkland and frm what I remember was not that interesting.  The back nine, though, was more fun as it comes back to the clubhouse through some interesting terrain (holes 10-16) closer to the dunes / water.

-David Q  

Mark Chaplin

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Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2007, 07:11:17 AM »
Sean,

Great pictures. RP is charging £80 round £120 a day for 2007, whilst it is a great course I wonder whether the market will hold firm to such a rate as many people visit South Wales purely to play there. I'm sure Pennard would be a qualifying venue for a RP Open

With the US$ so weak I wonder how the major venues especially in Scotland and Ireland will fair. Is Royal Troon worth US$ 400 for a day with only one round on the championship course?

Are our top clubs failing to respond to the market and risking pricing golfers away just as Spain did to the Brits in the 1990s??

Cave Nil Vino

Bill_McBride

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Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2007, 01:54:16 PM »
Bill -

You may have already been to these spots, but Tenby and Ashburnham are worth checking out.  

Tenby is solid throughout with the exception of three holes towards the end (15-17, I think) that are out of the dunes land and very pedestrian.  The rest is great, classic links fun (esp. #'s 3 and 4 if I recall correctly).  The course is out a bit further west from Pennard.  

Ashburnham is a "Tale of Two Nines".  The front nine feels more like parkland and frm what I remember was not that interesting.  The back nine, though, was more fun as it comes back to the clubhouse through some interesting terrain (holes 10-16) closer to the dunes / water.

-David Q  

David, if I had driven any further west than Swansea (and Pennard), my wife would have killed me.  She was already quite peeved that we flew overnight from the US, then drove straight away from Gatwick to Swansea!  ::) :P

Where is Tenby?  I have heard good things.

David Quackenbush

Re:Another Lovely Day at Pennard
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2007, 12:00:44 AM »
Bill -

Tenby is about another 60 miles west of Pennard, so it is a pretty long haul.  

My brother and I flew the overnight from Chicago to London, drove straight to Pennard to play 18 and then drove west to Tenby for the night (played 18 the next morning).  I'm glad I was travelling with my brother and not my wife!

-David
 

ForkaB

Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2007, 06:19:46 AM »
http://www.golfarchitecturepictures.com/

Sean

Have you checked out Frank Pont's site above?

Bill_McBride

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Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2007, 09:03:02 AM »
Sean, if you can pull up my 2005 thread, "The Perils of Pennard," you are certainly welcome to the photos I posted then.  I'm looking forward to your article!

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2007, 10:10:19 AM »
Sean you must be close to membership there by now.

Mark_Rowlinson

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Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2007, 01:35:51 PM »
Sean, I have some colour slides of the 7th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 16th and 17th which I would happily send to you if you have a means of scanning them.  My old slide scanner is pathetic.

Bill asks what else there may be to play on the way to and from Pennard.  First, investigate flights to Bristol or Cardiff airports.  There was a photo of a Continental Airlines jet landing at Bristol in the newspaper the other day, so there may be regular flights from the States.  I don't know.

In South Wales Tenby is fun, and the 3rd and 4th holes are crackers.  There are some lovely views, too.  R Porthcawl is known to many of you, and so is its cost.  After Porthcawl my favourite is Southerndown - upland, overlooking the sea and interestingly bunkered, so it would contrast well with Pennard.  Pyle and Kenfig has a few holes in spectacular dunes on the back nine, but I suspect you would easily forget the front nine, although they are not give-away holes.  I was disappointed with Ashburnham, mostly I should say because you hardly see the sea and it feels somewhat anonymous although there are some excellent holes on it.  

Where else to play?  I assume that none of you will want to sample Celtic Manor for yourselves.  I think you'd probably best avoid St Pierre, too, despite its being a former European Tour regular venue.  Paul Turner posted some excellent pictures of St Mellons (NOT St Mellion) some time ago on GCA - perhaps someone could turn up the link to it.  http://www.stmellonsgolfclub.co.uk/  It seemed to have admirable green complexes.  I don't think you'd enjoy Rolls of Monmouth.

Around Bristol there are one or two quite nice courses such as Long Ashton and Henbury, but you might prefer to try Bath, which is a Colt course set on high ground with many fascinating holes. Along the M4 heading back to London there are downland courses such as Ogbourne Downs and High Post, which give fine views in good weather and good drainage in bad weather, but you don't play them for their architecture.  Better, pass on to South-West London and play Woking, Worplesdon, West Hill, Swinley, the Berkshire.... or if you are heading for Gatwick you could throw in Walton Heath, Hankley Common, Liphook, Hindhead....

The motorway south of Bristol brings Burnham and Berrow within easy reach - it's not a serious detour.  Painswick is not far off the M4, either. Now there's a thought....

Chris_Hunt

Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2007, 02:03:48 PM »
Sean-

All of my pictures of Pennard are posted on Frank Pont's website, www.golfarchitecturepictures.com --although it is an incomplete set because my camera battery died  or I ran out of memory card somewhere on the back nine.  Enjoy.

tlavin

Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2007, 03:21:58 PM »
Wow.  This course looks like the progenitor of Sand Hills.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2007, 03:26:42 PM »
Tiger-perhaps I am a dope, but I don't know what you mean

Sean, I suspect Tiger doesn't know you are ALREADY a member!  ;)

Tony_Muldoon

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Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2007, 05:22:15 PM »
Found 50 still in the computer!  Sean I’ll send you an IM and see if they interest you.










Let's make GCA grate again!

Jason McNamara

Re:Pix of Pennard/Seeking More Pix
« Reply #39 on: January 18, 2007, 05:23:25 PM »
Bill asks what else there may be to play on the way to and from Pennard.  First, investigate flights to Bristol or Cardiff airports.  There was a photo of a Continental Airlines jet landing at Bristol in the newspaper the other day, so there may be regular flights from the States.  I don't know.

Mark -

Yes, Continental has non-stops from Newark, NJ (NYC area) to not only Bristol, but also Birmingham, Shannon, Dublin, Belfast, Glasgow, Edinburgh.  Oh, and Manchester too!  Great way for those in the states to avoid Heathrow / Gatwick.

In fact, this article on CO was in today's paper:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4478763.html

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