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John_Conley

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Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2002, 12:08:39 PM »

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Is there a greater demand for corporate tents at the Ryder Cup as compared to the British or US Open? Isn't the attendance at the Ryder Cup much smaller than either of those events? What does quixotic mean?

Root word for quixotic is - I sound like the guy from Greek Wedding here - actually Don Quixote, who chased windmills.
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Dan Kelly

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Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2002, 12:37:10 PM »
John --

I am not a scholar of Spanish literature, but I do believe Senor Quixote did not chase windmills.

He tilted at them!

And I didn't even know they HAD pinball in those days!
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John_Conley

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Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2002, 07:55:03 PM »
quix.ot.ic  1. of or like Don Quixote  2. extravagantly chivalrous or romantically idealistic, visionary, impractical

Don Quixote  1. a satirical romance by Cervantes, published in two parts (1605, 1615)  2. the hero of this romance, who tries in a chivalrous but unrealistic way to rescue the oppressed and fight evil.
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allysmith

Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #28 on: September 27, 2002, 12:33:07 AM »
Tom,

Interesting view on Pine Valley and one which I think would work. If we can limit crowds to a manageable amount and balance the income with TV money the whole experience would probably be a lot better. I think, however, there may be a problem. In this country the income at the gates is often that which is passed on to the club and the TV income goes to the Tour.

Given the apparent greed of our Pros and Tour Officials it may be difficult to negotiate settlements.

I would also add that limited crowds would be easier to control. We could perhaps eradicate the ridiculous hoopin an Hollerin and YOOOO Da MAAAN and other such inane pish and drivvel.

I think the addition of Hoylake may also be a problem. As I recall it was considered in the 60s but even then struggled to cope with the advances of time. If it were lengthened and toughened would it still be 'Hoylake'?

Brian,

What are the detrimental effects on Nairn. I was up there earlier in the year and it looked exactly the same to me as it always has. Beautifully kept, fantastic greens, and the modernised club house is a gem. Even the Pro shop is still where it was in Gregor McIntosh's days.

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Brian_Ewen

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Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #29 on: September 27, 2002, 02:29:24 AM »
Ally
The comment on Nairn came from a previous thread , where I mentioned the problem of taking High Profile tournaments to classic courses, is the detremental effect to the local golfers.

In Nairns case , post Walker Cup , greens fees almost doubled overnight .
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Paul Turner

Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2002, 08:55:59 AM »
Just a note regarding Hoylake:

The course was taken off the rota because of issues other than the golf course: practice facilties, tented village space...

Hoylake was actually around 7000! yards in the 1920s after it was redesigned by Harry Colt.  So lack of length has never been a problem there.
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Paul Richards

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Re: BELFRY not a worthy Ryder Cup venue
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2002, 04:57:40 PM »
This year's Ryder Cup was very exciting, but it was only in SPITE of the course.

Especially under the conditions imposed by Sam Torrance (pinched driving areas, back-tee on #10, etc), it was a less-than-inspiring layout which happened to have an exciting event staged at it.
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