HJ Whigham

[T_MacWood]

How much credit does Whigham deserve for Macdonald's early success...Chicago, NGLA, Piping Rock, etc.?

[Jonas Peter Akins]

At the risk of reviving a dormant topic (and, having spent hours reading his work on this site, as well as the tributes paid to Mr. MacWood on his passing, I’m fully aware that I’m standing on the shoulders of a giant in the field), I wonder if more is now known about Whigham’s contributions to golf course architecture? 
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[/size]My interest in Whigham stems from the two years that I spent teaching and coaching at Sedbergh School, in England, from 2001-2003.  The most famous golfing Sedberghian is Lt. FG Tait, The Black Watch, who was killed at Koodoosberg during the Boer War, having won the Amateur Championship in 1896 and 1898.  HJ Whigham, US Amateur champion in 1896 and 1897, was also a student there and The Sedberghian records Whigham and Tait competing in a swimming race in the River Rawthey during their schooldays, though I haven’t yet found any further connections.  There were also two Old Sedberghian Amateur Golf Champions of India, NM Mitchell-Innes and G Maitland-Heriot, but they don’t seem to have played as large a role in the history of the game.
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[/size]In addition to Whigham’s victories at Shinnecock and Chicago in 1896 and 1897, respectively, and his marriage to CBM’s daughter, Frances, plus his work as a foreign correspondent and editor of Town and Country, his niece was the (in)famous Margaret, Duchess of Agyll, of “headless man” renown.  Whigham is also recorded as having been involved with at least NGLA (including that redolent passage where CBM describes riding over the property with him), Onwentsia, Chicago, Piping Rock, Sleepy Hollow, and the Lido, but the details of those contributions are not readily apparent, at least to me.
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[/size]With Sedbergh celebrating its Quincentenary this coming year, I have been thinking of a short profile of Whigham, but wanted to check if any already exists.  John Low’s excellent book more than suffices for Tait, but I’d like to know more about, and perhaps raise the profile of, this most interesting man.  Any guidance, assistance, or insights would be much appreciated.

[Niall C]

Jonas,


HJ Whigham comes from a prominent golfing family with his father, several brothers and sisters who played the game. I seem to recall they were all known by their initials which makes it hard to remember who did what, but from my dodgy memory one of them might have been a champion in India or some place. And I think the sisters were quite handy at the game as well.


Like all their class, they were likely members at several clubs including I imagine the R&A, but home turf was Ayrshire where the old man was a prominent member of Prestwick.


That's all off the top of the head so please don't take it as gospel but will check later and get back to you. Do you have his book ?


Niall

[Niall C]

I forgot to say, as an aside, the Mitchell-Innes at Sedburgh was presumably a relative of Gilbert Mitchell-Innes of North Berwick, HCEG and probably R&A.


Niall

[Bret Lawrence]

Jonas,


There is a short profile written about HJ Whigham in Golf Illustrated., November 1930. I had to split the page into two to make it legible.






Bret

[Brian Finn]

Jonas - It's just a small item, but Whigham and CBM were also involved in the early days at Exmoor, just North of Chicago.

[BCrosby]

Bret -


It might be me, but I can't see the second page.


Jonas -


Whigham and family make several appearances in the British Golf in the 1890s. There are even some pics! Among other things, John Low played him to a draw in the 1893 Oxford/Cambridge match. I would love to know if a friendship developed.


Do you know when Whigham moved to the US? He and his father-in-law were at the center of American/UK cross currents about new approaches to both architecture and the rules (think: the newly formed USGA (late 1894) developed its own code which relied heavily, but not entirely, on the St Andrews code. The differences were a topic of discussion on the UK. Was Whigham involved on the US side?).


Bob


 

[Dan Moore]

The article is generally accurate as far as Whigham’s involvement at Onwentsia but has the dates wrong.
1894 still at Macdonald’s Farwell’s Links. Played a home/away match vs Chicago Golf Club Belmont and Farwell Links both laid out by CBM.
1895 1 year at a new site McCormick Farm 9 holes.R. Foulis arrives in June.
Fall 1895 Onwentsia Club formed move to Cobb estate
1896 9 holes laid out. R. Foulis and HJ Tweedie as Secretary.
1897 expanded to 18 holes into new land in NW quadrant.
1920s Alison reconfigured a couple of holes.


Robert Foulis, H.J. Tweedie, Macdonald all had an early hand in Onwentsia but most information credits Whigham with the expansion to 18 holes.


I believe Whigham arrived in 1893 (possibly 1892) for the world’s fair.

[Bret Lawrence]

Bret -


It might be me, but I can't see the second page.


Jonas -


Whigham and family make several appearances in the British Golf in the 1890s. There are even some pics! Among other things, John Low played him to a draw in the 1893 Oxford/Cambridge match. I would love to know if a friendship developed.


Do you know when Whigham moved to the US? He and his father-in-law were at the center of American/UK cross currents about new approaches to both architecture and the rules (think: the newly formed USGA (late 1894) developed its own code which relied heavily, but not entirely, on the St Andrews code. The differences were a topic of discussion on the UK. Was Whigham involved on the US side?).


Bob

Bob,


I think I formatted the photo incorrectly.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Can you see the second half of the page now? 


Wasn’t there a Whigham who was a member of Royal Liverpool?  Macdonald seemed to play at Royal Liverpool whenever he visited Europe prior to starting Chicago Golf Club.

[Steven Wade]

This thread is old enough to join the army and just got its first reply! Impressive.


I was recently reading Wayne Morrison’s writings on the beginnings of Merion and it was mentioned that CBM and Whigham came down to Philadelphia to advise whether the land was suitable for building a golf course. It got me wondering too about whether Whigham was actually involved in any designs or perhaps there in the role of another strong player who might offer insights to shot value? I think the likeliest answer is that he was a son-in-law, friend, and probably a pretty good hang at a time when traveling wasn’t nearly as quick and easy as it is now. I’m basing this solely on the fact that when CBM got out of the game and started filtering work towards Raynor, Whigham is nowhere to be seen. One would think that if your son-in-law had studied under you and proven himself to be an important part of designs, MacDonald would have promoted an arrangement which saw Whigham designing and Raynor continuing to build.

[Tommy Williamsen]

This thread is old enough to join the army and just got its first reply! Impressive.

That is a really funny line.

[BCrosby]

Got it Bret. Thanks.

[Simon Barrington]

Jonas - It's just a small item, but Whigham and CBM were also involved in the early days at Exmoor, just North of Chicago.

Hi Brian,

I was fortunate to be a guest at Exmoor CC a few years ago, and by chance have their Centenary Book (1896-1996).

There is not mention of either CBM or Whigham being involved directly, but there is a passing reference that H.J.Tweedie (see below) who was involved:

    "...in creating a group that gathered in Belmont, IL. This group, which included a friend of the two Tweedies, C.B. Macdonald, formed the original Chicago Golf Club in 1892. H.J. served as a member of the executive committee. When Chicago Golf was moved to Wheaton, H.J. remained at the Belmont Golf Club, then moved to Exmoor in 1896. He went on to launch an astonishing number of golf courses until his untimely death on July 9, 1906. Besides Exmoor, Tweedie laid out Belmont GC, Bryn Mawr, Flossmoor, Glen View, La Grange, Midlothian, and Park Ridge, among others"

Perhaps the original Chicago Golf (Belmont) Group included Whigham too (but he is not mentioned in the Exmoor book)?
(Edit: Having re-read replies above if Whigham was indeed a Royal Liverpool Member, then very likely involved in the Belmont Group?)

Exmoor's first course was laid out by then Pro H. J. Tweedie, who was the son of the first Secretary at Royal Liverpool GC in 1869, James Tweedie, and had come with his brother to the US in 1887.

Then remodelled by Donald Ross in 1914.
Interestingly there is reference in the book to the Club asking H.S. Colt for his views in 1913, but nothing is known what became of that enquiry.

Hope that helps
Cheers

[Bret Lawrence]

I’m not sure if this is saying Whigham was a member of Royal Liverpool or not, but Tweedie does seem to include him in this tribute to Hoylake after Joe Lloyd won the 1897 US Open.





C.B. Macdonald mentioned both Messrs. Walter and Charles Whigham in his 1912 writing about National Golf Links of America.  I have seen Walter Whigham tied to Royal St. George’s in one article.

[Brian Finn]

Jonas - It's just a small item, but Whigham and CBM were also involved in the early days at Exmoor, just North of Chicago.

Hi Brian,

I was fortunate to be a guest at Exmoor CC a few years ago, and by chance have their Centenary Book (1896-1996).

There is not mention of either CBM or Whigham being involved directly, but there is a passing reference that H.J.Tweedie (see below) who was involved:

    "...in creating a group that gathered in Belmont, IL. This group, which included a friend of the two Tweedies, C.B. Macdonald, formed the original Chicago Golf Club in 1892. H.J. served as a member of the executive committee. When Chicago Golf was moved to Wheaton, H.J. remained at the Belmont Golf Club, then moved to Exmoor in 1896. He went on to launch an astonishing number of golf courses until his untimely death on July 9, 1906. Besides Exmoor, Tweedie laid out Belmont GC, Bryn Mawr, Flossmoor, Glen View, La Grange, Midlothian, and Park Ridge, among others"

Perhaps the original Chicago Golf (Belmont) Group included Whigham too (but he is not mentioned in the Exmoor book)?
(Edit: Having re-read replies above if Whigham was indeed a Royal Liverpool Member, then very likely involved in the Belmont Group?)

Exmoor's first course was laid out by then Pro H. J. Tweedie, who was the son of the first Secretary at Royal Liverpool GC in 1869, James Tweedie, and had come with his brother to the US in 1887.

Then remodelled by Donald Ross in 1914.
Interestingly there is reference in the book to the Club asking H.S. Colt for his views in 1913, but nothing is known what became of that enquiry.

Hope that helps
Cheers

It's very possible I am mixing up Whigham and Tweedie, but a quick search of the gca archives (Exmoor Whigham) suggests I may not be.  A few potentially relevant posts come out of that search, with this (reply #2476) being a particularly interesting one.

The Creation of NGLA in Chronological, Contemporaneous News Articles

FWIW, the passage also addresses some of what Steven Wade was wondering about Whigham's level of involvement in course design. 

Additionally, when I played there a few years back with David Schmidt (a long time contributor to gca), he gave me a pretty detailed tour and history of the club, which most certainly mentioned CB MacDonald, and I thought, Whigham.  But, I did have quite a few Schlitz after that, so who knows.