Mystery hole

[redanman]

Unique in my experience the * hole.  Free Lehigh CC logo ball plus two others to the first to identify location and architect.




Anyone else ever seen a * hole?

[A_Clay_Man]

Is it ol' Pete?

[wsmorrison]

The * hole sure doesn't get a !!!, !! or even !

I do like the way the cart path seems to meet the sand.  I hope the fairways and fairway bunkers don't have a margin of rough on the leading edges in the same manner.

[TEPaul]

I wonder if about six architectural "wrongs" add up to making an architectural "right"? Wherever this hole is it should fit very nicely into either end of the spectrum of the "Big World" theory---eg golf and golf architecture is a great big thing and there really is room in it for everyone (every taste).

The stone military entrenchment on the left is an interesting touch but if some brash young architect is looking to make a name for himself with a semi-military theme in his golf architecture he really should consult with Paul Cowley first---there is noone better at that wrinkle. Matter of fact, he's so good at it that the National Park Service has tried to put one of his courses on the National Registry of Historic Places.

[Tom_Doak]

It's got to be either Charles Banks or P.B. Dye.  Probably P.B.  But I don't think I've seen the course.

[redanman]

No luck so far, it's a stumper for sure.

I thought it'd be fun.

Agree with TD's thought process.

[Andrew Summerell]

I don’t mind the idea of having an * for a hole number.

There is a particular Australian course designer that builds quite poor even number holes. I felt that his best bet was to design a course that only had odd numbers. Therefore, playing 18 holes would mean starting at the 1st & ending on the 35th. If it was a 2 course complex, you could have another designer to design the even holes. Then you would have the Even course & the Odd course.

You could make a composite course out of the prime numbers.

[Scott_Burroughs]

I thought it might have been a replica hole of Harbour Town #17 (with that hill in the way behind).

[redanman]

It's an original hole by this architect, not a replica.

[John Goodman]

Weiskopf/Morrish?

[redanman]

I'll give a little clue

a single letter

one of F G H I J K L M

a new course built on the site of  an old one. The * is between 13 and 14 used as a substitute hole.

[Mike Policano]

Bill, except for the clue, I would have gone with the Ace Club and Player(?).

[Dan Moore]

Wild guess.  Gil Hanse South Fork CC Long Island.

[redanman]

The clue is that the single letter tells you about the architect!

This is really obscure, I'll admit, but when I played this course I
 thought the hole was pretty interesting and the concept of a
mid-round hole for a substitute hole vs. a 'bye'  or #19 hole was
unique.  Giving it the * instead of a number was rather novel
and certainly unique in my experience.

Answer later.

[Jason Mandel]

Ok, So I'm guessing architecht is Stephen "K"ay.

Now, which of his courses could it be???

[peter_p]

I dredged up an old thread on bonus holes, but it didn't help unless it's thje one at Lehigh.
http://www.golfclubatlas.com/forums2/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=22147&start=0

[redanman]

Stephen Kay is the correct answer and the hole is not mentioned
on the thread Peter linked. (I missed that thread).

[Brent Hutto]

Knollwood?

[Scott_Burroughs]

New York Country Club, New Hemptstead, NY

Stephen Kay

[Scott_Burroughs]

Original design's architect, Geoff Gosling.

[redanman]

Scott's the winner.

NYCC is a cute little intimate modern course in Rocklyn county NY.
It has a real variety in the 19 holes although the * is the only one
that is so Raynor-esque.

The first hole is a straight (I mean straight) downhill par 4 of only
 312 yards and the green is fronted by a pond and surrounded by
about 5 bunkers.  THe course is generally solid and was a nice
 surprize.  9 ans 19 are uphill and severely uphill, as is 8.  10 plays
straight downhill but its a par 5.  The rest is fairly flat.  

As I said before the * was a novel name and it was new to me.
Good par 5's, 4's and threes as well.  Nice views of the city from
the clubhouse.

[Dan Kelly]

Ha ha ha.

I thought, by "*," you meant to imply that the name of the hole was -- along the lines of that famous bunker in New Jersey - "unmentionable."

I spent a few good minutes of my life early this morning trying to figure out which unmentionable feature of which type of body this * hole reminded me of!