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Tim Martin

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2011, 09:28:51 AM »
Newport CC- R.I. - 1894

Jud_T

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2011, 09:32:29 AM »
Downer's Grove GC
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Ben Sims

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2011, 11:53:20 AM »
I think Kyle may have a new oldest course played as of today.  It was good enough that he texted while he was on the first tee at 8a.m eastern.  It was 2a.m. Hawaii time.  Thanks Kyle!! ;D

Matthew Rose

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2011, 12:21:34 PM »
Janesville CC in Janesville, WI. Founded in 1894 and claims to be the second oldest club in the midwest.

At one time I lived off the 8th fairway, though we never joined. I got to play it frequently in high school though.... they used to let the non-members on the golf team on it all summer for free.

Wonderful old school layout with tiny greens that still hosts US Open local qualifiers on occasion.
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Tom MacWood

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2011, 01:57:00 PM »
I believe the park at Van Cortland Park dates to 1888, but the golf course was built in 1895. The oldest course I've played is Highland Links at Truro on Cape Cod; it supposedly dates back to 1892.

David_Tepper

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2011, 02:43:42 PM »
I have played both Old Del Monte (in Monterey) and the Presidio (in San Francisco), which both date from the 1890's. I believe they are the 2 oldest courses west of the Mississippi. 

Joe Bausch

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2011, 03:00:54 PM »
I hit range balls on the site of the old St. Davids Golf Club, that course opening in 1899.  But I guess that doesn't really count.  ;)

So instead I think for me it is Whitemarsh Valley (1908).
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Mark Chaplin

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2011, 03:48:42 PM »
Chicago Golf Club, The Country Club, Flossmoor Country Club.

This week Royal Troon 1878, Western Gailes 1897,  Prestwick 1851 and Glasgow Gailes 1787 (the club).
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Phil McDade

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2011, 04:41:05 PM »
Janesville CC in Janesville, WI. Founded in 1894 and claims to be the second oldest club in the midwest.

At one time I lived off the 8th fairway, though we never joined. I got to play it frequently in high school though.... they used to let the non-members on the golf team on it all summer for free.

Wonderful old school layout with tiny greens that still hosts US Open local qualifiers on occasion.

Matthew:

How does it compare to Riverside? I've always wanted to get down to Janesville CC, but have never seen it. Does JCC have all original 18 holes? I seem to have read somewhere it was 9 originally, then 9 added later. Cornish and Whitten (at least my edition) doesn't list it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bendelow wasn't somehow involved -- he did a lot of courses in southern Wisconsin and northern Wisconsin.

Mac Plumart

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2011, 04:47:00 PM »
I think its Maidstone for me.
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Steve_ Shaffer

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #60 on: May 21, 2011, 05:00:08 PM »
Philmont South (1906) Reid,Wilson,Gordon
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Bob Jenkins

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #61 on: May 21, 2011, 05:21:46 PM »
Victoria Golf Club, Victoria, B.C. dates back to 1893 and according to the club history by Peter Corley-Smith is the second oldest golf club in North America still in its original location. The oldest is stated to be Shinnecock Hills (18920. Currently, our Jeff Mingay is completing a restoration of the bunkers at Victoria which has greatly improved the course but totally in character with this quirky little course.

The Victoria history also says ""To go even further back, one authority claims that a small group of Hudson's Bay officers were the first to play golf in the Pacific Northwest in the 1840s. An unnamed Factor at Steilaccom, one of the Hudson's Bay farms administered by Fort Nisqually, on Puget Sound, in what is now Washington State, sent for his clubs from Scotland, and a small, seven hole course was laid out some two miles from the present village of Steilacoom". Steilacoom is near Tacoma and very close to the Chambers Bay course. I forget the gentleman's last name, first name was Bill, who used to post here and was familiar with this possibility.

Gearhart GC in Gearhart, Or., mentioned by Garland, opened 3 holes in 1892, or at least that is what their website says. I assume if it was only three holes at the time, that may be the reason it was not mentioned in the Victoria history. It is also possible Gearhart may now be in a new location.

Del Monte opened 9 holes in 1897 and a full 18 in 1907.

Ronald Montesano

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #62 on: May 21, 2011, 05:52:33 PM »
This was mentioned on page one of this thread, but I'll bring it back up, as it is the oldest still in existence in North America, (Bob Jenkins will have to revise his list) so the claim goes:

http://www.notlgolf.com/course.html

Niagara On The Lake is a lovely colonial town filled with overpriced shops, mutton and views of Lake Ontario. The inhabitants are known to take pride in their heritage/lineage/acreage (take your pick) and look suspiciously upon folks with a tan darker than cream.

The golf course is a fun jog for 9 holes near one of the Great Lakes.
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RSLivingston_III

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #63 on: May 21, 2011, 05:57:48 PM »
Oakhurst in White Sulfer Springs, West Virginia.

FYI; Oakhurst was actually built in 1881 or 1882, and probably earlier. Maintenance records exist from 1882.
1884 is supposed to be the first year they started their annual challenge medal, played for on christmas day.
Bob Cupp did a good job with the renovation/restoration of the course. Many of the original holes appear to be in play. It does seem to offer the types of challenges that were asked of a player in the 1880's.
The 1913 Golf magazine article on Oakhurst is a must read.

Another FYI; the sheep don't mow the course and never did. Back in the day, they borrowed the lawnmowers from the Greenbriar and mowed it before play.
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Bruce Leland

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Re:What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #64 on: May 21, 2011, 08:22:31 PM »
Waveland, Des Moines - dubbed as the oldest course West of the Mississippi.  I have seen a variety of dates, most of which are in the 1890's.
Jason:  Town and Country Club St. Paul lists it's charter date as 1888.  Not sure when the golf course was opened.  Rick S???
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Bob Jenkins

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #65 on: May 21, 2011, 08:35:57 PM »

My post referred only to courses out in the west, at least west of the Mississippi, that I have played. Niagara-on-the-Lake is a beautiful town and the course there is very cool, looking across the river to New York. I have walked around that course but never played the little beauty.

Other than Shinnecock Hills, which I have definitely not played, the only course I mentioned that I have not played is the alleged course in Steilacomm, Wa. which was alleged to have been in play in the 1840s near Tacoma. The only authority on that who is old enough to have played the course is Sean Leary of Seattle.
 


RSLivingston_III

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #66 on: May 21, 2011, 09:36:46 PM »

My post referred only to courses out in the west, at least west of the Mississippi, that I have played. Niagara-on-the-Lake is a beautiful town and the course there is very cool, looking across the river to New York. I have walked around that course but never played the little beauty.

Other than Shinnecock Hills, which I have definitely not played, the only course I mentioned that I have not played is the alleged course in Steilacomm, Wa. which was alleged to have been in play in the 1840s near Tacoma. The only authority on that who is old enough to have played the course is Sean Leary of Seattle.
 



Bob would you have any leads on that possiblely(?) 1840s course in Tacoma?
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Matthew Rose

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2011, 12:34:57 AM »
Janesville CC in Janesville, WI. Founded in 1894 and claims to be the second oldest club in the midwest.

At one time I lived off the 8th fairway, though we never joined. I got to play it frequently in high school though.... they used to let the non-members on the golf team on it all summer for free.

Wonderful old school layout with tiny greens that still hosts US Open local qualifiers on occasion.

Matthew:

How does it compare to Riverside? I've always wanted to get down to Janesville CC, but have never seen it. Does JCC have all original 18 holes? I seem to have read somewhere it was 9 originally, then 9 added later. Cornish and Whitten (at least my edition) doesn't list it, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bendelow wasn't somehow involved -- he did a lot of courses in southern Wisconsin and northern Wisconsin.

9 holes were built first and then an 18 hole course was built over the same property in the 20s. I do not believe the original nine holes were kept in the same form or configuration, so perhaps the 1894 claim is somewhat dubious, but I do believe a few of the original greens are still in play on what is now the second nine, though I have no idea how many or which ones they are. Unfortunately, it has always been hard to find historical information regarding the course. I don't know who any of the architects were and I don't believe the style of the course does much to answer that question. Bendelow is actually a good guess.... come to think of it, there are a few holes that I always thought resembled Medinah a little bit.

Aesthetically it is a little similar to Riverside although the land is more dramatic and has more elevation. There are several holes that play sharply uphill from tee to green and most of the green complexes are elevated. The greens are all very tiny, round, often slanted back to front and usually lightning fast. A couple have ridiculous false fronts; I've seen putts on #17 that rolled off the front and 75 yards down the fairway. It's very short; about 6300 yards. Every par four on the second nine, bar #12, is under 350 yards.

It's a great example of length not being necessary to challenge the good player. I've seen it bring many decorated high school players to their knees. It was always a terrific home course advantage for us in matches.




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noonan

Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2011, 12:48:48 AM »
Piqua CC 1896 Ohio

Kyle Harris

Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2011, 07:00:01 AM »
I saw this got bumped and then saw Ben beat me to the punch! Just yesterday I played Palmetto Golf Club in Aiken, SC.

D_Malley

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2011, 08:53:32 AM »
for me, the oldest course that i have played in th US would have to be the st. martins course at Phila. cricket. i think it dates back to the 1890's

Dan Herrmann

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2011, 08:27:28 PM »
My oldest - Waverly in Portland OR (1896)

Brock Peyer

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2011, 10:15:11 PM »
Cape Fear Country Club, Wilmington, NC - 1896

Steve Lang

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2011, 10:34:19 PM »
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Zack Molnar

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Re: What is the oldest golf course you've played (in America)?
« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2011, 04:47:47 PM »
Im surprised no one has mentioned Downers Grove Golf course here in Chicago, which is the first site of Chicago golf club in 1892. I know thats the oldest for me