The ugliest great course is...or..the best fishing course is...

[John Kavanaugh]

Based on the pictures on this web site I've got to go with Garden City..What am I missing..

[TEPaul]

"Based on the pictures on this web site I've got to go with Garden City..What am I missing.. "

John:

Only the same thing you always miss....  

Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder.

Are you aware that there's an entire tribe of pygmies in West Africa who all think Heidi Klum is one of the ugliest women they've ever seen? She's just way too tall and way too skinny to be remotely beautiful to them. And they think her ass is ugly because to them it's basically non-existent, but that's obviously because it never had to carry the water it takes to walk clean across the Kallihari Desert.

[redanman]

Based on the pictures  ..What am I missing..

There's your answer

[TEPaul]

redanman:

Give me a hint---is the answer in the 'based on the picturess' part, or is it in the 'what am I missing' (oddly without a question mark) part?




....or alternatively, would the answer be in the "pot" part or in the "stirer" part.

[Jim_Coleman]

    The Old Course, by far.  If you didn't know where you were, you'd think you were on the moon.  If someone built it today, it would get no attention whatsoever.
    By the way, I think Garden City is pretty cool looking.

[redanman]

And I think TOC is beautiful.

Photos sometimes tell the story, sometimes don't.  Flat courses photograph poorly.  I've photo'd enough to know ....  tough task conveying a flat course by photos.

Maybe Vicky National is ugly with all those scars in the ground  .

[John Kavanaugh]

I also think TOC is one of the most beautiful courses in the world.  

I learned one thing yesterday....I you really want to see the beauty in a course..fish it.  If there is a better golf course to fish than Victoria National I would like to hear a nomination..

[John_Cullum]

Let me join in the heresy. I nominate Prestwick. That big structure by the 7th or 8th hole just makes too lasting an impression.

It's also possible that Prestwick doesn't qualify because of the weaknesses of the inward 9.

[A_Clay_Man]

the best ugliest course Ive seen is Smeyers Southern Dunes.

Pebble's newest house is the ugliest house I've ever seen. On or off a golf course. It looks like a bus station. One can almost hear Bill Cosby's  bus station annoucer bit as they walk by. Philly bus (&*&()garble garble(&)leaving (*(*^*^&^*(garble(&%&%*% track *(&*^(*^garble&&*()*&(.

[Tom Huckaby]

I learned one thing yesterday....I you really want to see the beauty in a course..fish it.  If there is a better golf course to fish than Victoria National I would like to hear a nomination..

Killarney GC, Killarney, County Kerry, Ireland.

John, if you think Victoria is beautiful to fish, well... you need to get to this one.  The full name is in fact Killarney Golf and Fishing Club.  Here's a small taste, one that doesn't come close to doing it justice....

http://www.killarney-golf.com/gallery.html

TH

[John Kavanaugh]

Huck,

There is no fishing in Ireland...

[Tom Huckaby]

Huck,

There is no fishing in Ireland...

There isn't?  Guess it's a silly name for a club then... and that stuff they were doing when I was there was called something else in your world...

 

[Evan Fleisher]

the best ugliest course Ive seen is Smeyers Southern Dunes.

Pebble's newest house is the ugliest house I've ever seen. On or off a golf course. It looks like a bus station. One can almost hear Bill Cosby's  bus station annoucer bit as they walk by. Philly bus (&*&()garble garble(&)leaving (*(*^*^&^*(garble(&%&%*% track *(&*^(*^garble&&*()*&(.

That's just because of all those shitty little houses that line EVERY STINKIN' HOLE!!!  Other than that the course itself is quite nice to look at...

[John_Cullum]

I thought JakaB was a non-fisherman. I love fishing on golfcourses. TPC, Harbourtown are good, but Sea island Seaside is incredible.

[Michael Wharton-Palmer]

Has anybody considered Carnoustie for this illustrious award?....not for the fishing but simply on it's merits as lacking in beauty...great golf course, but certainly lacking in the esthetic department.

[Tom Huckaby]

Michael - I'd concur with that re Carnoustie - and the new modern hotel in the background just makes things worse....

TH

[PThomas]

Royal Lytham perhaps

[A_Clay_Man]

Yes Evan, That is a given. I'm not sure if I was making a point about outside influence's limiting impact on GCA, or not?
 
 

[John Kavanaugh]

I thought JakaB was a non-fisherman. I love fishing on golfcourses. TPC, Harbourtown are good, but Sea island Seaside is incredible.

I was a non-fisherman until yesterday but now I'm hooked.  I'm going to WalMart in a bit and get me a pole..

How about the great courses in Michigan..I'd think they would have some good fishing.  Hazeltine is kinda ugly..isn't it..

[John_Cullum]

Ogeechee a/k/a Ford Plantation also has excellent fishing.

[Matt MacIver]

Sawgrass #17 has lots of water -- any fish?  

[redanman]

Just for the record, I think National Vicky is very attractive visually, but some trees need to go before this fall when the USGA  Seniors come to visit.

Fishin'?  Don't know nuthin' 'bout fishin' but Ogeechee is a pretty neat little golf course, but two very very different niners.

[John Kavanaugh]

Just for the record, I think National Vicky is very attractive visually, but some trees need to go before this fall when the USGA  Seniors come to visit.

Fishin'?  Don't know nuthin' 'bout fishin' but Ogeechee is a pretty neat little golf course, but two very very different niners.

Redanman,

If you count trees 4" dia and larger Vic has cut down thousands since your last visit...10" or larger I would say a couple of hundred.   I think Tom Meeks hates trees as much as anyone on this board.

[redanman]

yipee

[SPDB]

Ireland has some of the best Salmon fishing in the world. I might wander off Waterville to fish in Butler's Pool, because of the fishing and not because of the recent Fazio modifications.