Who said this?

[Bill Gayne]

I  read this comment in a regional golf magazine from a modern GCA:

"I've picked up ideas from many of the older courses, such Winged Foot, Baltusrol, and Pinehurst No. 2,. Also some of the British courses. Some of the traditional architects such as Donald Ross, Alister Mackenzie and A.W. Tillinghast have influenced my style. I avoid disrupting the natural setting as much as possible. I believe it is important to preserve the natural features of the land and not go against what Mother Nature has created."

Who do you think said the above? Are the styles of courses and architects cited in the quote to diverse or could it all be melded together into a "style?"

[ed_getka]

More importantly to me is does he really mean it, or is he just saying what he thinks people want to hear?

[Chris Parker]

Okay,

Admittedly I cheated and googled it.  

First of all, I have to preface my comments by saying that I haven't had the chance to play any of his courses.  Normally I would finish this statement with an italicized "yet", but in this case I haven't, since I don't have any plans to ever play any of his courses.  On second thought, a few of the courses he's designed in collaboration with other leading architects are intriguing, and I can think of at least two of those on the east coast I'd like to see.  Oh, and maybe that new one he did, y'know, out there in the middle of nowhere...

Anyway, after apologizing emphatically for my verbosity, I must say that strictly from what I've read about his work, this quote sounds like nothing other than crap to me...

[Mark Arata]

deleted because obviously I am a idiot.......thanks peter!

[peter_p]

Mark,
Rees Jones is not the architect quoted.

[peter_p]

Mike,
It is probably boilerplate language taught at an ASGCA seminar.  Chris gave good clues.

[Mark Leo]

I think I've seen this quote before. Sounds pretty generic, and not anything more.

[Tim Bert]

Chris's clues sound like Nicklaus to me.

[Mike_Cirba]

Chris's clues sound like Nicklaus to me.

Tim

No cheating or I'm going to report you to CIP.  

[Bill Gayne]

It was Nicklaus who said it and my immediate reaction was the same as some of those above that it's pure spin.

I don't think the part "I've picked up ideas from many of the older courses, such Winged Foot, Baltusrol, and Pinehurst No. 2,. Also some of the British courses. Some of the traditional architects such as Donald Ross, Alister Mackenzie and A.W. Tillinghast have influenced my style" is spin. He learned the game on a Ross course. His greatest wins came on courses by these architects. Ross and Mackenzie came from the British Isles. His love of St. Andrews. The difficulty I have is that the three old GCAs are very different especially Tillighast.

[Tom_Doak]

Bill:  The question really should have been what practicing architect has NOT said something like that in recent years?  Who hasn't bowed to the temple of Ross, MacKenzie and Tillinghast?

Besides Tom Fazio, that is.

[Sean Walsh]

As Tom says this appears reasonably generic spin/promotional language.

Tom,

Without using such cliches how do you (or any of the other architects on the board) promote yourself and your design philosophy?  i.e how does an architect with a limited portfolio show that all the pretty words and saying the right thing is actually reflected in their work.


 

[Scott Cannon]

First of all, I have to preface my comments by saying that I haven't had the chance to play any of his courses.  Normally I would finish this statement with an italicized "yet", but in this case I haven't, since I don't have any plans to ever play any of his courses....   I must say that strictly from what I've read about his work, this quote sounds like nothing other than crap to me...

You've GOT to be joking.

[Bill_McBride]

That quote comes either right before or right after the one in the prospectus that says, "This is the finest site I've ever had the privilege of working on."

     It's all marketing hype.

[Joe Hancock]

Now I'm curious...especially to those who say they won't seek out this architects' work now....

Let's say you're an architect, and you have to do some PR about a new project......what brilliant new things can you say about it? Taking into account your responsibity to the client, are you going to say how the site sucks and that you intend to try some wierd, newfangled idea?

Let's here it......this should be fun.

Joe