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Cliff Hamm

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2005, 08:35:40 PM »
Pat

Longer grass has little to do with adjusting to different conditions.  Higher handicaps hit the ball better when it sits up.  For most it is easier to hit the ball off of a tee, a tuft of grass, etc. than off of a close cut fairway.  The basic point is that if you're having trouble breaking 100 spin doesn't matter, you just want to get the ball up.  Longer grass in the fairways would make it easier for most.

James Bennett

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2005, 09:42:59 PM »
The choice of fairway turf is very important here.  If the newer micro-leaf hybrid couches (bermuda) such as Santa Anna, winter-green and windsor green are used, it is very difficult to get them to be anything but fast and tight (because of the fine and dense leaf).  And, if you allow them to go above 1 inch off fairway, there is an undesirable tendancy for the ball to settle deep down into the turf, more than desired for a rough.  I've seen such fairways cut at a third inch (8 mm), although often at 0.4 to 0.5 of an inch (10 to 12mm) with a maximum of 0.6 of an inch (15 mm).  There is a balance (?meld) of playability, water, fertilser, colour and thatch build-up there somewhere to be found

I applaud those great courses that have had the intestinal fortitude to retain their historic grasses on the fairways.  The fairways may not be as 'pure' as others, but how important are 'pure' fairways compared to 'good' fairways.  I read recently that in CB MacDonald's ideal golf course rating, he applied a 6% factor to the quality of the fairway.  Only 6%.

Royal Melbourne is a case where the traditional fairway turfs and maintenance practices have been retained, thankfully.  Otherwise, the rolling fairways would have very few divots in them, irrespective of the quality of the golfer.
Bob; its impossible to explain some of the clutter that gets recalled from the attic between my ears. .  (SL Solow)

Adam_F_Collins

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2005, 09:45:10 PM »
Quick question:

How do you pronounce "poa annua"?

Curtis Strange refers to it on TV as "Po-Anna"

But it LOOKS like "Po-ah An-oo-ah"

Anyone?

Craig Sweet

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2005, 09:55:54 PM »
We mow at .65...will drop down to .60 and maybe a little lower latter in summer...back up in Fall.

Longer fairway grass makes it easier to hit the ball...that is a fact.
Longer fairway grass has more margin for error when dealing with weather/bugs/disease/play....
Longer fairway grass...in the .65-.75 range was the norm at most courses up until about 10 years ago...

Patrick_Mucci

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2005, 12:17:00 AM »
Cliff,

Perhaps, but, what is the trade off in run ?

Craig Sweet,

Would that apply to golf courses in south Florida in the Winter and Summer ?

Golf courses in the Northeast or Mid-Atlantic region ?

Or, just Maidstone and Newport ?

Craig Sweet

Re:Simple solution to reduce length
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2005, 06:58:29 AM »
I can't speak for warm season grass courses. Nor can I speak for Maidstone and Newport, having never played/worked there.

Up until maybe 5 years ago we mowed closed to .75 and then we dropped the heights a few weeks before the Montana Open to .65 and never went back...our fairways are a blend, but mostly bluegrass.  We lower everything to about .60 for summer and they do become fast and hard...more importantly, they tolerate the heat a little better at that height.

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