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Brad Klein

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amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« on: January 08, 2003, 09:58:12 PM »
I came across this manuscript 4 years ago and was among several in the golf/writing/architecture business who encouraged and cheered on (and couldn't wait for) an SF attorney named Warner Bott Berry to publish his novel, "Scotsman's Dream." Now it's out - all 500 pages, replete with wonderful authentic, period-piece drawings by architect Chris Monti of Bobby Weed's staff.

The story involves a mythic NYC meeting in 1932 with Ross, Tillinghast and Mackenzie. They meet, collaborate on a dream course, and it finally opens decades later. Quite a lovely story with a good historic nuance and he gets all of the design details right. He's presold about 1,000 of them already, with a few more available to the public. Anyone else see it yet?
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Josh Taylor

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2003, 07:44:28 AM »
Brad,

I ordered my copy early last year.  I actually called Mr Berry's office yesterday to check on the status of my order.  They said maybe early February it will arrive for me.  Each book is numbered and personally signed so they are getting sent out slowly as they are completed.  So I guess the early you ordered it the quicker you will get it.  Im sure the wait will be well worth it, cant wait to read it.
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THuckaby2

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2003, 07:46:14 AM »
I'm pretty sure this book has been discussed already and golf book aficionado extraordinaire Ed Getka listed ways to get it... but I can't find that thread.  Can someone find that for me, or otherwise let me know how to order this book?  Sounds like one I need to read....

TH
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George Pazin

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Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2003, 07:46:16 AM »
Brad -

There was plenty of talk a few weeks back about this book & whether it was legit, since the author was asking for upfront money. It's nice to hear it's legit - I'll have to put it on my wish list.

Maybe we can talk Dan King into a review. :)
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Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

THuckaby2

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2003, 07:48:32 AM »
George - how about Dan and I do duelling reviews?

King - knowledgeable, fact-checking
Huckaby - pie-in-the-sky, was it fun, who cares about facts

 ;)

TH

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Matt Dupre

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Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2003, 07:52:50 AM »
I can't find the previous thread either, and based on Brad Klein and others reviews I'd love to order it.

Anyone who knows how to order would be helping a lot of us out I imagine.

Matt
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George Pazin

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Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2003, 08:11:08 AM »
For anyone interested in purchasing, check the "Christmas Wish List" thread.
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Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

John Bernhardt

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2003, 05:42:59 PM »
I would like to know how to order it too. John
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B. Klein

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2003, 06:27:45 PM »
So, folks were asking a number of questions about the author being legit because he was asking for upfront money? Sounds like your standard author looking for a standard author's contract and an advance, except in this case it came direct from (prospective) buyers rather than the publisher. Since he was asking (and got) $100 a copy, I'm thrilled to see that in this case, the wait was worthwhile. Too bad Sleeping Bear Press and he didn't get together. And no, I have no stake in this, except to see a good book read.

You can reach him via mail at:

Warner Bott Berry
Attorney at Law
One Maritime Plaza
Suite 400
San Francisco, Calif. 94111  
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ed_getka

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Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2003, 04:42:02 PM »
The prepub. price was $100 and hopefully you might still get it. The current price per my friend Ron Muszalski is now $250. Ron has my copy so I haven't seen it yet but he tells me it is superbly done. If you cannot get the prepub price shoot me an instant message and I'll see if Ron can get the lower price for you.
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"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

David Hirschler

Re: amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2003, 05:25:07 PM »
$250?

Makes the Preacher of Golf look like a bargain at $85.
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Dave Maberry

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Re:amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2003, 08:37:42 PM »
My copy of "Scotsman's Dream" arrived today. This is after 18 month wait. It looks like it is worth wait. Final tally is 527 pages. I believe final number of copies was cut to 1000. A few are still available from Warner Bott Berry.
The MacKenzie Map(front endpaper) is by Christopher Monti, the Golf Course Map(rear endpaper) is by Darryl T. Robertson and Christopher Monti. The Golf Hole Drawings(very realistic) are by Christopher Monti and Andrew Berry(author's son).
Well back to reading.
 :)
Dave

Paul Richards

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Re:amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2003, 04:02:52 PM »
I received my copy AND a follow-up call from Mr. Berry.

He didn't have to call, but it was very nice of him to do so.

Thank you for a beautiful book.  I cannot wait to start reading through it!
"Something has to change, otherwise the never-ending arms race that benefits only a few manufacturers will continue to lead to longer courses, narrower fairways, smaller greens, more rough, more expensive rounds, and other mechanisms that will leave golf's future in doubt." -  TFOG

scott_wood

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Re:amazing "Scotsman's Dream" book published
« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2003, 05:26:44 PM »
Everyone must place their own value on the price, but it is a pleasure to read. Mr Berry is an interesting gentleman,who is an Ithaca NY native and Cornell grad, and is intersted in knowing/learning the "background" of those who purchase his "labor of love".

He was very cordial in followups to my queries as to "where is the book?". His fax for those who would like to request a copy is 415-981-1314/phone 1870. Golf afficiandos need more books like this.