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wsmorrison

Point of origin for perceptual miscues
« on: December 07, 2004, 08:38:24 PM »
What designer(s) and at what course(s) were the first man-made perceptual miscues utilized?  

For instance, when were the backs of bunkers raised with the intention to hide landing areas and forshorten perceived distances between bunkers and greens?  Another example of the use of miscues is the manipulation of toplines of bunkers that are used to change the perception of distances, angles and slopes.  

TEPaul

Re:Point of origin for perceptual miscues
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2004, 05:03:09 AM »
Wayne:

It might be a little hard to pinpoint when architects actually did things like that on purpose because it seems like few of them actually mentioned it or wrote about it. In my opinion, the reasons why are sort of obvious. To state those things is a bit like revealing the "mystery", isn't it?

But ironically the architect I've seen mention it and even write about it is Tom Fazio, particularly in how he occassionally designs "dips" to make the target look closer than it actually is!

Since bunker faces or bunker fronts in the old days were sort of rudimentary, as in their construction basically being earth dug out and thrown right in front of the excavated pit, the reality of visual deception or perceptual miscues (hiding what's directly behind the raised face) probably just sort of happened and then architects and golfers began to notice the visual effect of it.

We certainly do know Flynn used this technique all the time but I can't recall if he ever actually admitted it much less put what he was doing in writing.

Certainly Mackenzie and his various applications of military camouflage in golf architecture understood he was doing things like this architecturally. This type of thing could be one of the primary reasons Mackenzie was always known as an architect whose courses often looked harder than they really were----the virtual opposite of Donald Ross's style!!

TEPaul

Re:Point of origin for perceptual miscues
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2004, 05:10:53 AM »
Also, Wayne, as we were mentioning while we were driving around in Florida after analyzing Indian Creek, how an architect actually manages to "hide" a virtual 45 degree diagonal architectural line and somehow make it appear to be perpindicular to the line of play (an extremely neat visual deception to use) is some kind of neat visual deception trick I don't think we ever did get an answer to as to how an architect actually does it.

If I were to guess I'd say one way may be to basically drop the elevation down all the way along to the far end of the diagonal line---but I certainly could be wrong about that. I'm sure there're other ways to do it.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2004, 05:12:03 AM by TEPaul »

BCrosby

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Re:Point of origin for perceptual miscues
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2004, 10:01:52 AM »
Wayne -

I suspect those tricks go back a couple of eons. Playing TOC two years ago I thought I had a mid iron to the green on the par 5 on the front (4th hole?). My caddy smiled and quickly corrected me. I had been fooled by a ridge that hides the wide swale fronting the green. I was off by three or four clubs. Great stuff.

Bob

wsmorrison

Re:Point of origin for perceptual miscues
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 11:21:31 AM »
Bob,

I know exactly what you mean on The Old Course at the 5th hole (Hole o' Cross-Outward).  The swales starts about 80 yards short of the green and does create a distance miscue.

I'd say that certainly was the earliest form of a natural feature that creates a bit of mystery and was probably a template for its use in golf architecture.  I'm wondering where it was created intentionally for early on.

As Tom Paul demonstrated, Flynn used it to great effect at Kittansett, Indian Creek, and other places not always on flat ground (best used on a downslope?).  He also used angles and toplines of features to fool the eye.  Given that there are many examples of Flynn use of these design features, I would imagine that it was not a random result but a systematic effort.

I'd be fascinated to know who may have originated or who were the early practitioners of this and what courses are they found.