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George Pazin

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Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2004, 03:14:06 PM »
The only negative thing I've ever heard about Jack is that he can be a bit stubborn, and, at times, he can razz his friends pretty hard.

Sounds like he'd fit in here quite well.

Did they change the rules regarding invites again when I wasn't paying attention? I thought it was basically 60 and out unless you "competitive", and that they made an exception for Arnie since they wanted to give him a last hurrah.
Big drivers and hot balls are the product of golf course design that rewards the hit one far then hit one high strategy.  Shinny showed everyone how to take care of this whole technology dilemma. - Pat Brockwell, 6/24/04

TEPaul

Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2004, 05:23:34 PM »
Does Nicklaus belong to ANGC? I know Palmer does as of recently, I think. If Nicklaus doesn't they should ask him to join--I mean six green jackets isn't exactly dogmeat.

Brian_Gracely

Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2004, 05:26:21 PM »
Mr.Nicklaus is a member at ANGC.

Tommy_Naccarato

Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2004, 06:30:26 PM »
I went to this post thinking it was saying JakassaB is an ass. I was all ready to post something too.

Bill_McBride

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Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #54 on: April 14, 2004, 10:23:53 PM »
Lou - Las Campanas - what about that weird par 5?  That by itself eliminated "outstanding," downgraded to "pretty good." Using my standard memorability index, I can remember every hole at Black Mesa and about 3 or 4 at Las Campanas.  That #10 was pretty good - or was that at Desert Mountain?

Tony_Chapman

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Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #55 on: April 15, 2004, 04:46:33 PM »
I hate to bring this post back to the front, but this column is pretty good from espn.com. The Sports Guy is one of my favorites. Thought you guy would enjoy it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040415

If the link doesn't work, just copy and paste it to your browser, sorry.

Kevin_Reilly

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Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #56 on: April 15, 2004, 05:46:51 PM »
I hate to bring this post back to the front, but this column is pretty good from espn.com. The Sports Guy is one of my favorites. Thought you guy would enjoy it.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/040415

If the link doesn't work, just copy and paste it to your browser, sorry.

Here is the link:

Sports Guy Column
"GOLF COURSES SHOULD BE ENJOYED RATHER THAN RATED" - Tom Watson

Lou_Duran

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Re:Jack is an ASS
« Reply #57 on: April 16, 2004, 12:31:41 PM »
Bill McBride,

If one indifferent hole would exclude a course from serious consideration, CPC would be out (#10 in my opinion, not #18), Pebble Beach (several holes could be cited), Valley Club, Pasatiempo, Cuscowilla, TOC, and many, many others.

And if memorability of all the holes after a single play is the criteria, I could not come up with a list.  Certainly Sand Hills which I've played twice and Pacific Dunes (4X) are highly memorable courses, but there are holes on both that I don't readily remember.

Sunset is a significant course in my opinion.  I think that it has a very nice, varied mix of holes, interesting topography, excellent greens and surrounds, superb conditioning, and natural beauty.  The routing is not my favorite, and there are a couple of holes that didn't fit my eye.  The course can be set up for every level of play.  It is a course that if I had the chance to play it again, I would do so without hesitation.  

In fact, the only JN course that I've played and had to scratch my head was Turtle Point.  And I am not sure if my lousy game that day and having played Ocean that morning didn't cloud my view.  Also, Nicklaus probably had no control on how the owners chose to develop the rather dense, close-in residential real estate component.

JN may be a little repetitive in his work.  However, he designs for the memebers who may or may not care if Sunset and Sunrise are similar to courses at Desert Mountain as long as their two courses are outstanding and contrasting enough between them.