Melbourne's Heineken Classic Moved To Oregon Coast

[THuckaby2]

Dave:

Dune on the right - gotcha.  OK, I don't get how that could be tied in any better, but that's cool.  It was so much in play when I was there - you had to aim right at it given the wind - that I was happy it was set there as it is.  Can you also explain how it would be "tied in" better?  I'm not completely clear on what that means.  You may well convince me to ditch this one also.

I just did have a lot of fun playing that hole.  But I swear I played it from an angle way different from those pics...

As for the ocean, hell it's in sight on every hole on both courses.  I swear to you that has no effect on this discussion of 12 at all, not to me anyway.

BTW, I assume you mean 5 at BD is terrific?  

TH

[Dan Grossman]

Tom -

I just looked at the picture of #12 and it doesn't seem to be right either.  But, I was never a huge fan of that hole.  But, I don't think it has anything to do w/ the hole and more that I am always pissed off that I have to walk back 150 yds to #13 tee after playing that hole.  

As far as trading out holes, here goes:

BD #2 for PD #9
BD #5 for PD #10
BD #11 for PD #14

The front nine closes with a long par 3 instead of 4 straight par 4s.  The back nine starts w/ a strong par 4, short par 3, reachable par 5, difficult par 4, difficult par 4, par 5, short par 4, par 3, tough par 5.  I think that is a pretty good mix...

I decided to swap in #2 at BD because I like a long par 3 in every course and PD doesn't have one.  (BTW, the card only says 190 yds, I thought that hole was at least 200+ yds when I played it last...I'll have to look at my yardage guide)

[DMoriarty]

 Tom,

It is hard to explain without standing on the green and pointing to edges and movement that doesnt quite gell with me.   The best example I can give is the little collection area between the green and dune.  The green feels artifical to me, even if it is not.

Tom other than PD 10 I can think of no other hole on either course where you tee off directly at the ocean, which is immediately behind the hole.  You may not have noticed it out there, but I bet most do.  

I meant PD 5, but obviously I like BD 5 as well.  

[Michael Dugger]

There was a huge thread about Bandon Dunes composite courses about a year ago.  

[peter_p]

Tom & Dave,

PD #12. Whether you are playing over or around the bunker depends which tee you are playing. The championship tee is back and right and plays about 190 and the bunker allows entry from the right side. The regular (my) blue tee is forward from the path from the 11th green and the buker stares you in the face.

I play a sling draw landing about 25 yards short of the green
and the slope runs the ball onto the green. There is a cachement area if you land the ball near green high.

In my view the !!! holes on Bandon Dunes are 4, 5, 11, 12, 14.

[THuckaby2]

AHA!

We only played way back tees at BD once.  So my memory is from playing it from the blues - thanks for the explanation, Peter - and man I really enjoyed the golf hole.  There's not many I'd sit and hit shot after shot on, and we did here and on #16 BD.  And in neither case were we sitting admiring the scenery... Dave I get how this hole faces the ocean - fair enough - but I still can't see how this is any more or less eye candy than a bunch of other holes at both courses.

I also don't even remember a collection area between the dune and the green - maybe because the wind was howling left so often, no balls ever stayed right of the bunker and not on the the green.  But if that exists, then I get it... they ought to have made it flow right down on to the green.  That makes sense.

I still like the golf hole though!  Yes, enough to eliminate 5 on PD.  I too liked that hole - I just like 12 on BD more.  But to each his own, as always.

Peter - concur re the !! holes at BD.  I'm not sure how that is defined, but put me down for ! status for 1 and 16 also.

TH

[Gerry B]

To: Danny Goss

Re: Is there a better course that hosts a pro tourney each year -here are a couple:

Pebble Beach (AT&T) / Augusta National -The Masters

[Mike_Clayton]

GerryB

I'm with Danny on this one.
Having seen all three I think Royal Melbourne is still the pick of the bunch.

As Tom Doak once wrote 'Royal Melbourne is the course Augusta wants to be'

As for the Composite question,the great thing about RM is you can never tell which course ,East or West, you are playing.
I have played a couple of rounds at Pacific but only the front nine at Bandon and seemless was not a word that came to mind.

[Gerry B]

Mike:
We are all entitled to our opinions (that is what is great about his board) but I respectfully disagree, in fact I think New South Wales is a better course than Royal Melbourne.

   

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