Huck,

I'd just like some disclosure when someone starts giving an opinion of what is affordable or not...This is hardly a poorly veiled rater attack...cause if it was I would ask if you still had the number of the gal giving out free rounds at Pebble.  As a tourist I thought Pasa was very affordable the day we played...who cares.  Just name how much it costs and possible twilight or other deals available to the average guy.  This opinion of affordability goes beyond good taste.

JK:

You remain a piece of work.  And I mean that in a good way.  Just be clear - although you find great fun in the fact Pebble is available for raters and some here have availed themselves of that, well... I never have and likely never will.  But perhaps I will, and I'll take someone here along.  Free next spring?

But OK, I shall try to abide by your rules.  Because in one sense you're right - affordability remains in the eye of the beholder, and we all have our thresholds.  But I believe I did know the thresholds of those participating in this thread... No matter though.

Tim:

You just had exceedingly good fortune then and your experience continues to differ from anyone else I've ever talked to.  Again, good for you... but I shall stick to my story as well.   You don't want to know what happened when I just called Spyglass and asked for a time on Tue October 3.  

Ed:

Your post reminds me, I could use your services these days.    But seriously, I am mainly just giving you a hard time... You do make a great point though:  I'd say most of us do go beyond our thresholds for special courses, and Pasa certainly does fall in that category.  I'd just continue to have a hard time calling it a value... But then again, some courses are so great that they transcend value discussions.  Pasa is one.  So mea culpa.

 

JK:

You remain a piece of work.  And I mean that in a good way.  Just be clear - although you find great fun in the fact Pebble is available for raters and some here have availed themselves of that, well... I never have and likely never will.  But perhaps I will, and I'll take someone here along.  Free next spring?

Huck,

I would love to play Pebble for free as long as I am not a rater myself as it is clearly against the rules of the handbook which was thrown in my very face last week.  I find it funny indeed.  Let me know before the next time you see pigs fly.

Martin,
   That was a drizzle by Scottish standards I'm sure. It was a great pleasure to meet you and Nancy. I certainly look forward to our next opportunity to get together, on whatever side of the "pond" it occurs.
    Bill was certainly a trooper to slog through, and try to put the ball in holes that were sometimes 4" underwater.
    I must say we had a much nicer day last month when Mark Chalfant was in town and John Krystynak came up to join us. Although the course was a bit of a construction zone, and we couldn't play #6 and #13 as par 5's.

Installing new back tees - lengthening

I don't seem to understand why new tee's would be built for those par 5's? Do they play all that short? Or is is maybe to get an OVERALL yardage increase on the scorecard? I've only played it once so I don't remember those two playing that short? Or my memory is short?

I'll buy that. I don't like the classics messed w/ either. And I'm w/ you, for us mere mortals, I think the total yardage is fine. Especially in that courses case, it seems to play significantly longer than what's listed. In fact, I remember a friend of mine said that Pas. was the longest 6400 yd course he's ever played.

Fortunately you can still play the shorter tees on these holes if you so desire.

Questioning our manhood, eh Evan??

David

Pasatiempo also has a set of tees at 5,680 yards. Perhaps that would be even more to your liking  

The yardages at Pasa are just plain wrong.  I think they do it to fool touristas like me.  

The card says 16 is 371 from the whites.  I hit my driver what should have been around 250, and yet I still had over 200 to go.  

17?  354 yards my a**.

I'll bet the members have a different scorecard.

Ed - isn't there quite a bit of room behind 6 tee?  It has to be 50 yards' walk from green to tee there... If they really wanted to push, they could go all the way back to 5 green.  Of course they'd have to completely blow out the existing tee pad, but well... if length is what they want, it is at least possible... I think it's kinda the same issue as 13 though.

BTW, that structure is a bathroom, and in fact was designed by an NCGA course rater friend of mine.  He calls it his legacy to golf.

 

Ed - concur re 6 - so what the hell is going on there?  I can't see reasonable ways to lenghten either 6 or 13.  In fact I might have to send my spies there this weekend to see what's what.

That bathroom has been there as long as I can remember... but no surprise you haven't seen it... it's by the cart path.  While walking you'd have to go down and to the right on purpose to see it.

TH

Just changing the number on the scorecard is the budget way to go. Two stout par 4's for the limberbacks, and they can bill themselves as the toughest par 68 in Calif. at least.

Very true - and they'd get to usurp the (in)famous Lincoln Park in so doing!

I am seriously curious though re the work going on... Evan said new back tees are being installed... is that true?  Man it seems like overkill....

TH