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Bill_McBride

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Mike, I think I meant you didn't think the bunkers at Cuscowilla could hold up over time because of the water running through them due to natural surface drainage.  Not a question of like or dislike but will they work over time.

Nothing to do with the esthetics which are great.  You still think they will work as designed and built?

You know I love the place!  I'm just not as up to the design criteria as you are..

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Mike you may be on to something with the Waitress to Stew move. I just never thought a Waffle House waitress would know where the airport is except dirt strips for crop dusters lol
« Last Edit: February 25, 2007, 09:05:27 PM by Tiger_Bernhardt »

Mike_Young

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Bob,
Bulah (sp) really rocked my world. Haven't meant anyone close to her since.

I'll stick up for Mike here and attest he loves Cusco. He is a man of principle which is more then I can say for myself. However, I would like to see Mike answer my post in regards to the title of this thread. Mike, did it make sense, or am I going to have to come back there soon and show  Chris that you do put sugar in your grits.

So much for him being a self-respecting Southerner........ ;)
TN,
I confess....I do put sugar on my grits.....when are you coming back this way?  Bulah keeps asking.
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

RJ_Daley

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The thing about this thread, that a Waffle House waitress is more native to the south than a jagged edged bunker, reminds me that sometimes unlikely things can be very beautiful and useful in unlikely places.  

So, the jagged edged bunkers that most often are found in climates and soils that are conducive to them thriving more naturally with cold season grass lips and sandy soils, have been criticized when imposed in such climates and soil conditions that are more difficult to maintain.  Yet, if done right, conceived well, and maintained with care (like Cusco IMHO) then it works.

Trying to tie this together for Tommy and Mike on a Waffle House waitress level; I think of the waitress in the land of Swedes, 'you-bechas' and 'oh geez', of rural Minnesota, where Sophia Loren was a voluptuos waitress for Lemon and Mathau in "Grumpy old Men".  You don't see that kind of waitress too often in an ice fishing culture... but who wouldn't eat there?

Or, my recent introduction to 'shrimp and grits' thanks to Ed Galbavy's urging at Hymans in Charleston.  Tommy, I know you can get into this, because it is like shrimp and polenta!

Sometimes things you wouldn't expect, can go together.  But, the chef, director, or archie and super are key to making it plausable.  
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 12:04:21 AM by RJ_Daley »
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Don_Mahaffey

Mike,
Jagged edged is not the easiest description for me to grasp. Is it either the Augusta look or jagged edged look? I think there is a middle ground and I think you need to use what you have to do the best you can. Which means if you try to build a bunker in the south that mimics the northern fescue look...well then I don't think you’re very smart. But, with our warm season grasses we can create a "knarly" look if we just let the lips get out of control a bit and use herbicides to edge rather then equipment. It's quicker and since bermuda will grow vertically, the herbicide edging technique can leave a very "rough" look. Just take round-up and mix it at half strength and spray the edges about every 2-3 weeks in the summer and you can get pretty creative and end up with a southern look that I think is every bit as rugged looking as what you do with cool season grasses in the north.

JMorgan

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Or, my recent introduction to 'shrimp and grits' thanks to Ed Galbavy's urging at Hymans in Charleston.  Tommy, I know you can get into this, because it is like shrimp and polenta!


Mr. Daley, next time you're in Charleston, try the shrimp and grits at Slightly North of Broad... heaven.

Tommy_Naccarato

Shrimp & Grits?

Dick, your right, The SoCalifornian comes out in me--I'll take the mesquite grilled shrimp & polenta every time!

Bill_McBride

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The specialty of the house at the Fish House restaurant here in Pensacola is "Grits a Ya Ya," which features some lovely locally caught shrimp.  It's a beautiful dish with a lot of spicy flavor.

Brent Hutto

When we spend a weekend in the S.C. Lowcountry, our favorite recipe is pretty simple. Buy some shrimp right off the boat, boil 'em, pepper 'em and cook up a pot of real grits (not "instant", not "quick"). That plus a plate of biscuits and some iced tea and you've pretty much got supper covered.

ObCharleston: Jestine's Kitchen on Meeting St. downtown is awfully good, too.

TEPaul

"No self respecting Southron would ever put anything in their grits!  Grits are perfect, why mess with 'em?"

Southern diner proprietor to My Cousin Vinnie:

"Ain't you ever had grits before?"

Vinnie:

"I heard about 'em but I never actually seen a grit."
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 03:44:28 PM by TEPaul »

Brent Hutto

"No self respecting Southron would ever put anything in their grits!  Grits are perfect, why mess with 'em?"

I agree, grits is perfect by itself. But consider that some foods are themselves improved by the addition of grits...namely shrimp, scrambled eggs, fried eggs, sharp Cheddar cheese, home-made gravy, stewed tomatoes and liver pudding.

But your point is well-taken. And don't get me started on having to pick grits under the hot summer sun. You have no idea how long it takes to get a bushel of grits.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 03:50:27 PM by Brent Hutto »

RJ_Daley

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As I remember, that was one of the twenty questions clues that Charlie Ry., said was asked by the Georgia Golf Squad Capt., just before they guessed it...

Kin ya'll eat it with grits?
Grits and D.D., that's the ticket. :o 8) ;D
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Evan Fleisher

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When we spend a weekend in the S.C. Lowcountry, our favorite recipe is pretty simple. Buy some shrimp right off the boat, boil 'em, pepper 'em and cook up a pot of real grits (not "instant", not "quick"). That plus a plate of biscuits and some iced tea and you've pretty much got supper covered.

ObCharleston: Jestine's Kitchen on Meeting St. downtown is awfully good, too.

I will be in Charleston in early April for about 6 days with the fam...thanks for all these restaurant recommendations, gang!
Born Rochester, MN. Grew up Miami, FL. Live Cleveland, OH. Handicap 13.2. Have 26 & 23 year old girls and wife of 29 years. I'm a Senior Supply Chain Business Analyst for Vitamix. Diehard walker, but tolerate cart riders! Love to travel, always have my sticks with me. Mollydooker for life!

Mike_Young

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Mike,
Jagged edged is not the easiest description for me to grasp. Is it either the Augusta look or jagged edged look? I think there is a middle ground and I think you need to use what you have to do the best you can. Which means if you try to build a bunker in the south that mimics the northern fescue look...well then I don't think you’re very smart. But, with our warm season grasses we can create a "knarly" look if we just let the lips get out of control a bit and use herbicides to edge rather then equipment. It's quicker and since bermuda will grow vertically, the herbicide edging technique can leave a very "rough" look. Just take round-up and mix it at half strength and spray the edges about every 2-3 weeks in the summer and you can get pretty creative and end up with a southern look that I think is every bit as rugged looking as what you do with cool season grasses in the north.

Don,
Yep, I agree there is something in between......and what you describe is the same type of method I have seen used on some courses that wanted a longer rough but playable and it seemed to work.  But my theory...and it is my theory..s that most of the old dead guys did not set out to have the jagged edge bunker as much as nature allowed it to evolve into what guys are trying to emulate today.  It was just a simple matter of maintenance and cost for many.....it is sort of the same phenom as people paying the prices they pay for faded ,worn jeans.....vs. new jeans.....everything is always changing and that goes for golf courses.....and the happy medium they will always go back to is a simple Ross or Tilly type of bunker......just like blue blazer, penny loafer....JMO
Mike
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"

Ron Farris

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I am having difficulty with this thread! Does anyone have some good pictures of the (a) waffle house waitress?  ;)
I can visualize a jagged edge bunker but what do the curves of a waffle waitress look like.  Are they soft and long or are they short and well, not so soft?

John_Cullum

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Ron

I would guess Mike's point is a Waffle House waitress is native to THE South, and a jagged edge bunker aint. A WH waitress can have jagged edges, especially inside her mouth, but very few would be described as soft and long (except maybe her teeth) A WH waitress is often short, and wide. As far as what Mike means by a jagged bunker, I don't rightly know, but I'm sure someone will show us.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2007, 08:09:33 PM by John Cullum »
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RJ_Daley

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« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 01:22:38 AM by RJ_Daley »
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Evan Fleisher

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...and to take this thread in a COMPLETELY different direction, but headed back towards golf somehow...

Can anyone tell me the connection shared between the Waffle House and Bobby Jones? ...................
Born Rochester, MN. Grew up Miami, FL. Live Cleveland, OH. Handicap 13.2. Have 26 & 23 year old girls and wife of 29 years. I'm a Senior Supply Chain Business Analyst for Vitamix. Diehard walker, but tolerate cart riders! Love to travel, always have my sticks with me. Mollydooker for life!

Tiger_Bernhardt

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Mark, Please do not say that.  Waffle House should not venture into yankee hands. Those ladies just do not know how to wake you up in the morning.

John_Cullum

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...and to take this thread in a COMPLETELY different direction, but headed back towards golf somehow...

Can anyone tell me the connection shared between the Waffle House and Bobby Jones? ...................

They were both born in Atlanta. I believe the original WH was around Avondale, which is not far from East Lake
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Mark Bourgeois

Tiger, it could be worse.  Along the lines of that joke about Yankees and hemorrhoids, they could send down their chains.

Edit: John Cullum, WH must have come much later as I understand Jones did not eat for the first five years of his life.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 01:09:13 PM by Mark Bourgeois »

John_Cullum

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Huddle House is just Waffle House with french fries.

Note: In Georgia, the coffee is usually better in the Huddle House. Baptists are notorious for weak coffee.
« Last Edit: February 27, 2007, 01:07:57 PM by John Cullum »
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JESII

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...and to take this thread in a COMPLETELY different direction, but headed back towards golf somehow...

Can anyone tell me the connection shared between the Waffle House and Bobby Jones? ...................

They were both born in Atlanta. I believe the original WH was around Avondale, which is not far from East Lake

Now if you tell me it was in the winter of 1929 on into the spring of 1930 we'll really have something to talk about...

Mark Bourgeois

Baptists are notorious for weak coffee.


Baptists oppose both caffeine and nude bathing due to fears they might lead to dancing.

Mike_Young

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...and to take this thread in a COMPLETELY different direction, but headed back towards golf somehow...

Can anyone tell me the connection shared between the Waffle House and Bobby Jones? ...................
The two gentleman that started Waffle House were aquaintances of Bobby Jones....Joe Rogers and now his son Jr.  were/are members at Peachtree  and Tom Forkner, who just got in the Ga Golf Hall of Fame(as is Bobby Jones) was a member at East Lake and is a past club champion at Atlanta Athletic Club.....Mr. Forkner has won several senior events if not mistaken and has played in some of the same USGA events as Bobby Jones would have played.....
"just standing on a corner in Winslow Arizona"