Why don't people post under their real names or be deleted..

« **Reply #25 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:22:14 AM »

Quote from: Tommy Naccarato on November 09, 2006, 12:00:19 AM

John,
Aren't you being the holy one today!

You've quit this site, came back, quit again. Been asked to halt posting for a couple of weeks several times--so you could cool down--and then all of a sudden, today your lacy white, as pure as the driven snow!

What balls!

Then you want to act like your offended (on another post) and then won't even return my phone call when I call you to confront you about it.

John, cut out the act. If you don't like it, then simply don't click on it!

Also, go see the Borat movie, which maybe one of the funniest movies ever made. Hopefully it will grant you further insight, more humor to this wonderful life you have gifted.

Tommy,

I just got home from a trip and can not make personal phone calls from home....This is family time, or what they know of it. I sent you an email about Borat to the address I found linked to your name.

To me going to see Borat would be like going to a strip bar...sure I would enjoy it but at whose expense and whose benefit. I may fire a man tomorrow for using hate humor on the job and then you would expect me to use the money I made off of the sweat of his back to pay to see the exact same thing...Yea, I don't get it.

« **Reply #26 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:25:10 AM »

Quote from: John_Conley on November 09, 2006, 12:17:06 AM

Quote from: John Kavanaugh on November 08, 2006, 11:02:52 PM
I don't understand the above. Ran asked that we post under our real names and I have done so since. I would also ask that you stop using a woman avitar. I find it offensive to women and an unnecessary distraction.

So if Ran told you to jump off a bridge....?

If Ran owned the bridge and I had lived on it for over three years....yea if I could survive the fall. I think anyone on this site can survive a name change to their name...and if not the site can survive without them.

« **Reply #27 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:34:14 AM »

Barney, most people didn't need to be told and have always been accountable for their words and behavior.

« **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:36:03 AM »

Quote from: John_Conley on November 09, 2006, 12:34:14 AM

Barney, most people didn't need to be told and have always been accountable for their words and behavior.

And most people pick up a check without going on the internet and whining about it...

« **Reply #29 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:08:04 AM »

Quote from: RJ_Daley on November 08, 2006, 11:40:13 PM

Me thinkith thath Juan doth proteth thtoo muth.

Really John, who and how do many profit on this site. Do you mean by access for free. Last I checked, no one gets freebies as a GCA poster. Oh, you mean raters... they profit by getting some free golf. Well, all posters (most) are not raters.

I've faced any number of pros across the counter. Oh, it isn't all that intimidating. I just give them my Visa and smile. Do you think they'd be quaking in there ECCOs if they saw I have a GCA logo bag and my Visa says Da Mare? What do they fear more; the GCA logo and a nameless face or the Golf Digest Panelist tag?

Most pros I know don't have time to take a crap. Most of them don't sit there in their PJs or smoking jacket and scrutinize every poster and if they are negative or positive.

Oh, the Pat Ruddy posts do indicate that himself was lurking for a long time, I'll give you that. But, he got Tiger's name and called him out on it. It was an interesting if not informative exchange in the end. So why do you have to set yourself up to somehow look out for the poor pro, committee man at a club, DOG, etc, incase a nome d'plume somehow goes off on their course. Can these folks not fend for themselves? (quite ably as Pat Ruddy proves)

I seemed to prove today that if something goes to heck, a lot of info can be obtained in a short time about certain posters. Why the crusade about some colorful monikers, when none of the long time ones have been outrageously out of line?

And many raters either pay for their rounds, stay in the hotel or buy lots o' merch.

« **Reply #30 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:10:17 AM »

I am Spartacus ...

« **Reply #31 on:** November 09, 2006, 01:27:12 AM »

I am woman... hear me roar

« **Reply #32 on:** November 09, 2006, 02:22:31 AM »

I agree with Barney, I like to know whose who and sometimes I don't

« **Reply #33 on:** November 09, 2006, 02:31:29 AM »

Even if everyone uses names, how can we know those names are real?

« **Reply #34 on:** November 09, 2006, 09:44:18 AM »

Has the question been answered.
Why don't people post under their real names?
The bggest problem we have today with golf architecture business is the barrier to entry is almost zero. Whether an architect, rater, writer or whatever. So why not at least use your own names? JMO

« **Reply #35 on:** November 09, 2006, 09:52:12 AM »

Quote from: Mike Benham on November 09, 2006, 01:10:17 AM

I am Spartacus ...

I am Spartacus.

« **Reply #36 on:** November 09, 2006, 10:16:38 AM »

I actually started with my traditional name and like Bogie the yabba gods would not let me one day. That day my lifelong nickname Tiger Bernhardt was born to its GCA life. Tiger was born in a small Louisiana town. It was a delightful one for golf and to read a few pages of The Links.

« **Reply #37 on:** November 09, 2006, 10:17:56 AM »

upps toeing up to the line and saying I am Spartacus.

« **Reply #38 on:** November 09, 2006, 10:48:40 AM »

In the spirit of full disclosure. My first name is John.

I go by my middle name, Ryan.

Barneys posts have forced me into dropping John as my name of choice.

« **Reply #39 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:11:55 AM »

I was dumb enough to post my name, address and phone but still no prank calls, threatening letters or dangerous packages - seems that this group is pretty reputable. Although, I did get a call from a young lady asking if I was interested in a date at the next Kingsputter - I told her that she would have to be screened by the Emperor.

« **Reply #40 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:24:38 AM »

Jerry that young lady was my gf. lol only kidding. I am Spartacus!!

« **Reply #41 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:24:43 AM »

Depending upon how you look at it, there is another benefit to posting under your real name.

A few weeks ago, I got an e-mail and phone call out of the blue from a friend of mine that I haven't seen in years!! I'd been trying to track her down as well, but since she'd remarried and I didn't know her new last name or where she lived, I didn't know when I'd ever hear from her again. Fortunately, through an internet search of my name, she found GolfClubAtlas and got my e-mail address through my profile!

But if you are running/hiding from someone/something, that might not be a good situation

« **Reply #42 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:26:28 AM »

Quote from: Mike_Young on November 09, 2006, 09:44:18 AM

Has the question been answered.
Why don't people post under their real names?
The bggest problem we have today with golf architecture business is the barrier to entry is almost zero. Whether an architect, rater, writer or whatever. So why not at least use your own names? JMO

Mike,

The architects want us to post under are real names...the armchair critics on this board do not want to post under their real names. It simply comes down to the fact that it is difficult to show up for rounds at courses like Dismal River or any Rees Jones course when you have bashed the architect on a consistant basis. Some people like redanman, Shivas and Paul T simply think they have created a brand with their clever comentary and don't want to miss the next Pizza Man moment. This logic is of course turned back on us when they claim everyone knows who they are anyway.

Since Ran does not have the spine to delete people who hide behind false names...(I think PThomas is acceptable)..Maybe Brad Klein could get the job done with some form of discipline. Why would it be so hard to add to the rater handbook the following: All critiques of golf course architecture, architects, superintendents or subjects generally covered by Golfweek Magazine shall be performed in an open and honest manner under the name you rate courses for this magazine. This includes articles written for local and or national publications and discussions on nationally recognized internet golf architecture forums.

The last thing we need is a course or architect getting either slammed or praised under three different identities and one person. The golf world is too small and work is too sparce to allow these follies to continue. If a guy does a review for let's say Jersey Golfer I think the members and owner have the right to Google the authors name and see what he also says on this forum. Same thing goes if a guy calls and requests that he come out and see your course...Google will not pick up a simple signature at the end of a post.

« **Reply #43 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:35:43 AM »

John,

That may well be your longest post.

Maybe one of the strangest, as well, and that is saying something...

« **Reply #44 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:42:03 AM »

Quote from: John Kavanaugh on November 08, 2006, 11:45:54 PM

It was nice to be able to tell him and you and Shivas that I have only been rude or ignorant under my own name.

This might be true at present, but it certainly wasn't in the past, which is, I believe, John Conley's point.

Gotta be bigger problems in the world than this one, John.

« **Reply #45 on:** November 09, 2006, 11:49:36 AM »

Goerge,

I don't understand the argument that just because I posted for a time under a different name it makes it fine for other people to do it now. I attended the original King's Putter as myself so I don't see how I could have been unknown that long. Didn't the original King's Putter preceed the Sports Illustrated article by quite some time.

« **Reply #46 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:08:07 PM »

Quote from: George Pazin on November 09, 2006, 11:42:03 AM

Gotta be bigger problems in the world than this one, John.

Please name one that I can make an impact on right now, today. I would love to de-rail the Borat train and SBC's other hate images but the intellectuals have found an outlet for crude humor and won't be letting this one go anytime soon. I could go read to a lonely person in a nursing home but I need to stay chained to my desk so 50 other people can take a pay check home tomorrow. What can I do George...What bigger problem can I tackle today.

I once asked a Priest if I was being selfish by building roads when I could be out protesting abortion clinics and possibly making a difference in the lives of the unborn. He advised me that "God puts some people on earth to build roads and I should go with that." What am I gonna do...I can build roads and try to make the people on this site better at what they do...critique architects. I think I've done a nice job of both the last few years. You got a better idea.

« **Reply #47 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:14:40 PM »

Much like you found your own path in building roads, I leave it to you to find the bigger problems on this site and in this world.

I have a much bigger problem with people on this site shouting down criticism than, what, 4 or 5 people who apparently use pseudonyms.

I also have a HUGE problem with anyone who complains to Ran about damn near anything. Anyone who started this site shouldn't be be bothered with the pettiness that goes on here. Ran deserves only praise for his efforts. Period.

« **Reply #48 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:15:02 PM »

« **Reply #49 on:** November 09, 2006, 12:19:01 PM »

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