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Kelly Blake Moran

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2006, 09:35:44 AM »
The one thing I look for in superintendents and construction personnel but of course you can't ask the question is whether they drink.  Without exception once I learn of a superintendent who has a drinking problem you begin to understand why things are not getting done and eventually they are gone.  I think drinking to excess in off hours is the biggest detriment to the advancement of otherwise very talented superintendents.  There are long hours, the need to get up early and lead, and you can't do that after a night of heavy drinking.  
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Stuart Hallett

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2006, 10:11:19 AM »
Kelly

Have you ever asked a super why he started drinking in the first place ?

It could reveal the management problems at his club, as proved in this thread. Seriously, those conditions are enough to send any trained professional to drink.

Whether it be greenkeeping or architecture, most golfers believe they can design or maintain golf courses, their little knowledge is more dangerous than none at all. IMO, when a Bar manager/pro has more importance than a good super, then the club is surely doomed !


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John Kavanaugh

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2006, 10:13:40 AM »
Quote from: John Gosselin on January 13, 2006, 08:15:49 AM
Up the dues $10/month(3 beers) and give your new super a raise. Take the rest of the money and put back into your to protect your initial investment in construction.



Michelob Ulta, my current beer of choice is $1.50 each with a six pack option for $8..cooler included.  
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Mike Hendren

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2006, 10:16:52 AM »
John,

Thank you for a reminder of what life's like in the real world.  When I was a kid our "superintendent" growing up was a farmer.  We had a real super from an hour away consult twice a month.  Dues were $15 a month.  My dad and I volunteered to rake the sand traps each evening before tournament events - two flanking each green.  The farmer took drunk one year (KBM was right) the afternoon berfore the tournament.  It was the first and only time I ever saw my dad on a tractor, pulling the gang-mowers up and back the fairways.

The super at Legends Club does quite a bit of turfgrass consulting, from the Titan's practice and game fields to small clubs in Middle Tennessee.  Perhaps you could get yourself a diligent and sober farmer and have an "expert" give him direction a couple of times per month.  Too bad you're not closer, Joe Kennedy is such a good man he'd probably do it for free.

John Gosselin,

I'd be very disappointed if beers were $3+ a pop at LCCC.  (edited:  posted before Barney's $1.50 disclosure).

Barney,

Get those greens back up and I'll come to visit.  It'll be like going home.  Will we each have our own cart and play in an eight-some?

Mike
 
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Michael Hayes

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #29 on: January 13, 2006, 10:45:10 AM »
Kelly, I for one think that a professional in almost any field that has a drinking problem will have a hard time going beyond the call of duty...which is what is asked of exactly every super currently employeed!!!  I think that the more telling model might be divorce, the long hours do strain marriages...

Michael Hayes,GCS...social drinker and happily married, I must be lazy... ??? ??? ???
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John Kavanaugh

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2006, 11:15:16 AM »
Quote from: Stuart Hallett on January 13, 2006, 10:11:19 AM

 IMO, when a Bar manager/pro has more importance than a good super, then the club is surely doomed !




Our bar manager/pro is paid far less than the super.
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John Gosselin

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2006, 12:25:43 PM »
"Michelob Ulta, my current beer of choice is $1.50 each with a six pack option for $8..cooler included."

I was factoring in the tip, ice for the cooler, and the moon pies.  


As long as your super is the highest paid and most valued employee at the club, than it is a great club no matter the financials.
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Buck Wolter

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2006, 02:06:31 PM »
I like the idea of a young go-getter fresh out of turf school. I'm guessing with inflation that's more than I made coming out of undergrad.

What a great resume he'd have in 2 years when he contacts Doak for a summer internship or tries to get the assistant job at Crooked Stick. He was the 'Man' at a Bendlow course -- if he's any good JakaB would get him on at his other course.

I gotta believe he'd learn 1000 percent more than he would if he was working his way up the Super Ladder at the TPC of Springfield.
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S. Huffstutler

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2006, 05:33:45 PM »
He might learn more, but I'll guarantee you he won't advance quicker.

Steve
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Joe Hancock

Re:Superintendent interview questions..
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2006, 05:43:44 PM »
Advancement without learning.....cool idea!

Joe
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