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JakaB

Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2004, 11:04:51 AM »
Pete,

The BBGE has never accepted a donation and never will....kindness generates its own funds..
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A.G._Crockett

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Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #26 on: December 02, 2004, 02:17:01 PM »
Pete,
I went to the scorecards and websites (for memory purposes!) and did my match of Duke vs. Finley.  I'm glad I did, because I had forgotten that Duke had flipped the nines, and that #9 (formerly #18 had been converted to a par 5.  You're right; that is a goofy par 5, which is a shame because it was a very solid finishing par 4 when it was the 18th, and still would be the better finisher of the two nines IF it was a 4.

I differed with you on only two holes, with a third that I can't completely make up my mind about (though ultimately I went with your judgement).

#2  I gave this to Duke; I've always liked that green, and the shape of the hole off the tee is deceptive.  It looks like it ought to favor a draw, but doesn't really, and the best landing area for the tee shot brings the bunkers into play.

#8  I agree that neither par 3 is compelling, but I like #8 at Duke  somewhat better.  Semi-blind tee shot with a mid to short iron is very playable, and the recovery possibilities are much more interesting than #8 at Finley.

#18 is the one on which I just cannot decide; Duke is just two shots where you hit it as far as you can and hope for the best.  It is a relatively boring hole with a relatively flat green on a very good piece of ground, which makes it a strange way to finish the course.  On the other hand, Finley's #18 does nothing to stir my soul either.  As a finisher, I guess I'd rather see a birdie chance to win rather than bogey to halve, so I'd have to give the nod to Finley's #18 on those grounds.  The Finley green is more interesting as well.

Anyway, if I'm counting correctly, that puts Duke winning 2 and 1, with Finley winning 18 to stay 1 up on my card.  I had a blast doing this; thanks for getting the thought process started!  I will also readily admit that, given the much better nature of the overall terrain at Duke, there is much for me to think about vis a vis Finley.
"Golf...is usually played with the outward appearance of great dignity.  It is, nevertheless, a game of considerable passion, either of the explosive type, or that which burns inwardly and sears the soul."      Bobby Jones

Pete Buczkowski

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Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2004, 02:40:28 PM »
Pete,
I went to the scorecards and websites (for memory purposes!) and did my match of Duke vs. Finley.  I'm glad I did, because I had forgotten that Duke had flipped the nines, and that #9 (formerly #18 had been converted to a par 5.  You're right; that is a goofy par 5, which is a shame because it was a very solid finishing par 4 when it was the 18th, and still would be the better finisher of the two nines IF it was a 4.

I differed with you on only two holes, with a third that I can't completely make up my mind about (though ultimately I went with your judgement).

#2  I gave this to Duke; I've always liked that green, and the shape of the hole off the tee is deceptive.  It looks like it ought to favor a draw, but doesn't really, and the best landing area for the tee shot brings the bunkers into play.

#8  I agree that neither par 3 is compelling, but I like #8 at Duke  somewhat better.  Semi-blind tee shot with a mid to short iron is very playable, and the recovery possibilities are much more interesting than #8 at Finley.

#18 is the one on which I just cannot decide; Duke is just two shots where you hit it as far as you can and hope for the best.  It is a relatively boring hole with a relatively flat green on a very good piece of ground, which makes it a strange way to finish the course.  On the other hand, Finley's #18 does nothing to stir my soul either.  As a finisher, I guess I'd rather see a birdie chance to win rather than bogey to halve, so I'd have to give the nod to Finley's #18 on those grounds.  The Finley green is more interesting as well.

Anyway, if I'm counting correctly, that puts Duke winning 2 and 1, with Finley winning 18 to stay 1 up on my card.  I had a blast doing this; thanks for getting the thought process started!  I will also readily admit that, given the much better nature of the overall terrain at Duke, there is much for me to think about vis a vis Finley.

AG,

Thanks for your thoughts.  I can agree with the switches on 8 & 18...but I really think you will have a different opinion on 2 if you give it a second look.  The 2nd at Duke is just too much like the first one...the 2nd at Finley is really unique and thought provoking.  

I'm at least glad that you just have it at 1-up...last year I would guess you were at 4-up.  ;)

Pete

Brian_Gracely

Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2004, 02:40:54 PM »
John

I have already been on the horn seeking a tee time.  Apparently, you must stay at the resort to book a time.  Your gesture remains sublime, unfortunately, Pinehurst is an unwilling partner in your scheme.

Ciao

Sean

Sean,

This is not completely true, although for an outside travel it's essentially true.  Like Pebble Beach, they do allow same-day walk-ons to call and fill in empty slots.  Cost is basically the same, but has the obvious downside for trying to plan around it.  What I might recommend is planning to play somewhere near Pinehurst (ie. Tobacco Road, MidPines/Pine Needles) and then call Pinehurst that day to see if a slot opened up.

Andy Hughes

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Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2004, 02:42:11 PM »
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I have already been on the horn seeking a tee time.  Apparently, you must stay at the resort to book a time.  Your gesture remains sublime, unfortunately, Pinehurst is an unwilling partner in your scheme.
Sean, may I recommend the method we used 10 years ago? Sign up to play #4 (I think it was), wait for a really heavy, extended deluge, and wait under a rain shelter preferably right near the first or second hole on #2 while everyone else on all the courses heads in.  As soon as the rain stops, head to the nearest tee and have #2 all to yourself.
Well, it worked for us and we didn't even mean to do it!  ;)
"Perhaps I'm incorrect..."--P. Mucci 6/7/2007

JakaB

Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #30 on: December 02, 2004, 02:57:38 PM »
Sean,

The check has already been struck...now if this guilts you into playing one of the greatest simple pleasures in the world...lucky me..

Andy Hughes

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Re:Raleigh NC
« Reply #31 on: December 02, 2004, 03:25:34 PM »
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I must say, the mean (meaning cheap) bastard in me likes what he hears from Andy.  I like how he thinks.  Its in the ballpark of how I deal with taxes.  Did I write that?
Sean, I wish I could claim it was grand forethought on my part, but the truth is it was blind, dumb luck.
"Perhaps I'm incorrect..."--P. Mucci 6/7/2007