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Gary_Nelson

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2004, 10:26:15 AM »
My favorite was Angels Crossing #6...
Hole description below from their website.  It was my first biarritz hole and wow was it fun!!



 
The sixth hole: “Chasm”

Par 3 196-187-160-135-120

Willie and Tom Dunn’s third hole “Chasm” at Golf De Biarritz, France that opened in 1888, inspired what has become commonly known as a “Biarritz” hole. C.B. Macdonald’s ninth hole at Yale University is the most famous Biarritz hole. A seven-foot deep bunker guards the right side of the 180-foot long – 14,000 square foot green. The center third of the green, which occupies some 3,500 square feet, is three feet lower than the front and the rear.

 

THuckaby2

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2004, 10:43:24 AM »
#17 at Santa Teresa GC, San Jose, CA.  Pretty boring straightaway par 5, just belt two shots and pitch on whatever you have left, or putt.  World's worst flat boring bunker on the right.  Dead straight corridor through relatively ugly trees.  Decent green but nothing to write home about.

TH

(I birdied it to close out my opponent and win the club championship final, in a huge upset.  So hell yes this is my new favorite hole, of this or any year.)
 ;D

Tony_Chapman

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2004, 10:45:51 AM »
Having returned to Pinehurst this year, I still have a soft spot in my heart for the "love-it-or-hate-it" 13th at Tobacco Road. I still tend to love it.

Others include:

- The 11th at Southern Pines (my first hole with golf's most beloved figure).

- You name it, any hole at Wild Horse during my first round in April.

- The 4th and 12th at Mid Pines.

- The host at Raliegh CC and the two wonderful par 3's on the back nine (#14 and #17 I think)

A_Clay_Man

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2004, 11:00:22 AM »
Since Pete took Cleo, I'll say The Bad Baby, at Jasper Park.

The best config I golfed this year, was the original at Bannf.
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Mike Hendren

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Two Corinthians walk into a bar ....

redanman

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2004, 11:39:23 AM »
Like quirk?
Gotta love this hole










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Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2004, 11:54:32 AM »
#17 at Sand Hills, for Kavanaugh's sake.
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W.H. Cosgrove

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2004, 12:36:36 PM »
#15 Cypress
#10 Blackrock

Both short, one a par three and one par 4.  #15 because it is such a wonderful surprise before arriving at #16 and Blackrock because Engh has created one of the most unusual puzzles I have ever seen.

Sam Sikes

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2004, 12:51:11 PM »
redanman,

I loved 3 also, but the day I played, it happened to be straight downwind, and I drove it all the way into the neck on the right, so I had a sandwedge in.  I guess I would need to play a few more times to really understand how demanding it was.
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Tom_Doak

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2004, 02:18:06 PM »
#6 at Painswick.
A bunch of par fours at Saunton (East).
#9 at Tumble Creek, WA.
#2 at Sebonack, NY.
#8 at Stone Eagle, CA.
But I can't wait until December to decide what my favorites at Barnbougle and St. Andrews Beach are.

Scott_Burroughs

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2004, 02:36:19 PM »
Tom D,

I've read the Tumble Creek is scheduled to open next year.  Is that still the plan?  When next year?

Also, is the property that the 3rd course by Jacobsen-Hardy anything like the one you had to work with?

Tom_Doak

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2004, 08:10:34 PM »
Scott:

The last hole at Tumble Creek was seeded two weeks ago.  It snowed there a couple of days ago, so that last hole won't make too much progress this fall!

I haven't heard an opening date for the course, but it will be sometime next year ... it all depends on the weather, and on what conditions the client is comfortable presenting the course to the members.  The front nine was all planted first, so it is going to be mature much more quickly.

I haven't walked the land for course #3, but it's adjacent to the Palmer course and probably more like that one than like ours.

Doug Siebert

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2004, 08:40:19 PM »
Some old friends...

#7, #12 Ballybunion Old
#11 Tralee
#6, #7 Lahinch


And a new one...

#12 Old Head (for having the most intimidating tee shot in all of golf)

My hovercraft is full of eels.

John Kirk

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2004, 09:23:54 PM »
I didn't get around much this year.  I choose:

#3 at Pacific Dunes.  Simple, straightforward, and very beautiful.  And usually pretty easy.  But the last time I played it, I made an 8 when I had only 60 yards to the pin for my third shot.

For future favorite holes, I have high hopes for #15 (par 3) and #17 (big par 4) at Ballyneal (a Tom Doak project in Colorado).  The existing topography for these holes is outstanding to say the least.

John Kirk

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2004, 10:33:26 PM »
Some of the contributors here have posted enviable lists of favorite holes.

Therefore, my favorite word for 2005 is "ingratiate".

JK

higkgins

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2004, 09:42:42 AM »
1st timer @ Bethpage (Black) this past summer .... #5 has got to be one of the best par4's on the planet !!

Bill Gayne

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2004, 10:56:06 AM »
Doug,

#11 at Tralee is one heck of a climb but it is a beautiful and fun golf hole to play that is universally hated by every caddie that I ask about the backside at Tralee.

Higkgins,

I also played Bethpage Black for the first time this summer and found the fifth hole interesting. Based on my single play of the hole and my observation of my playing partners, the only way to play the hole to reach the green in two requires a long drive that clears the carry bunker on the right side. The drive really needs to hug the right tree line. On any other angle the green was blocked by the trees on the left. I thought the hole could be even better with some additional tree clearing on the left side especially towards the green.

THuckaby2

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2004, 11:24:57 AM »
Quote from: Doug Siebert And a new one...

#12 Old Head (for having the most intimidating tee shot in all of golf)


[quote

Doug:

GREAT CALL!  Now I always knew I am not the best with heights out in the open... I do get a little skittish... but man I was feeling vertigo on that tee box.  I seriously had to move way to the right side, because I felt like I might fall off the cliff on the left.  Get this too:  one of my buddies hit a hook that hung up on the cliffside, in the high grass... and went down there and HIT IT... try to picture that... man I could barely watch.  Thank god I found the fairway, through to the right side.

TH

Jeff_Lewis

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2004, 12:26:08 PM »
Travelled to Asia for the first time this year.  Hirono is a remarkable course that desperately requires tree removal. Nonetheless, quite a few holes really knock your socks off.  My hole of the year is #15, a par 5 with phenomenal bunkering.  Somewhere on this site are some photos of the hole from the 30s.  Great great stuff.

Brad Swanson

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2004, 01:18:24 PM »
First Timers
Maidstone: #8,9,10,13
Shinnecock: #9,10,11,14,15 (nice view)
Bethpage Black: #4,5

Old Friends
Wild Horse: #1-18 ;) :'(

Cheers,
Brad Swanson
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Patrick_Mucci

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2004, 05:45:59 PM »
James W Keever,

Par 3  # 4 at Hidden Creek
Par 4  # 8 at Hidden Creek
Par 5  # 3 at Hidden Creek

Dan Bock

Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #46 on: November 05, 2004, 12:28:14 AM »
Prairie Dunes - Perry Maxwell Original 9
#1, #2, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #17
(the others by Press aren't bad either)

Kingsley Club - Front 9

Shadow Glen (Olathe, KS) - #13, #14

Larry_Keltto

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2004, 12:58:27 AM »
#6 at Ballybunion Old (even with the caravan park); short, no sand bunkers that I recall, but a devil of a green; I loved it

#18 at Pacific Dunes; it kicked my butt, but what a mighty hole

#6 at Lahinch; the green site took my breath away; would've done so even without the ocean behind

(two in progress)
#4 at Ballyneal; par 4 on a massive scale

#7 at Ballyneal; short par 4 that I think is going to be a lot of fun

Neil Regan

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2004, 01:09:04 AM »
First Timers
Maidstone: #8,9,10,13
Shinnecock: #9,10,11,14,15 (nice view)
Bethpage Black: #4,5

Old Friends
Wild Horse: #1-18 ;) :'(

Cheers,
Brad Swanson

Brad,

 Some from your list.









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Grass speed  <>  Green Speed

Doug Siebert

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Re:Favorite Hole of the Year
« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2004, 03:21:23 AM »
Quote from: Doug Siebert And a new one...

#12 Old Head (for having the most intimidating tee shot in all of golf)


[quote

Doug:

GREAT CALL!  Now I always knew I am not the best with heights out in the open... I do get a little skittish... but man I was feeling vertigo on that tee box.  I seriously had to move way to the right side, because I felt like I might fall off the cliff on the left.  Get this too:  one of my buddies hit a hook that hung up on the cliffside, in the high grass... and went down there and HIT IT... try to picture that... man I could barely watch.  Thank god I found the fairway, through to the right side.

TH



Actually, the heights there don't really bother me.  On my previous trip to Ireland I got a picture at the Cliffs of Moher STRAIGHT DOWN, after having walked up the path to the left (less well travelled part) stepping over the friendly little white fence with the warning signs talking about how many people have died doing what I did.

I just consider it the most intimidating tee shot in golf because its got all the drama of the long carry over open ocean you get at #18 Pebble or #16 Cypress, but with an extra several hundred feet of elevation above the ocean, more wind, plus the tee shot is to an angled fairway that lies well above the tee and is TOTALLY BLIND!  That tee shot would be one of the more difficult around if you were hitting over a grassy field instead of the chasm of doom, you add that in and it'd take some doing to top.  Only a very few properties even offer the opportunity to come close.  For the architect to have the balls to actually do the blind shot above your head in such a setting is even more rare!

I can relate to what you buddy did -- on the 4th hole I played a 1 iron off the tee for "position", and positioned my hook in the ocean.  I dropped in a pretty precarious position there a clublength from the hazard stakes, ball way above my feet and the wind trying to blow me off balance and off the cliff.  Hit my best shot of the day with a slinging hook 4i onto the green from about 220 and almost made one of the best pars of my life.

Speaking of fear, you know what fear I do get at golf courses, even though I don't get vertigo and am not really bothered by long carries over water, etc?  I have a hell of a time hitting any shot over water if I'm standing right behind it, due to some unaccountable fear of having the club fly out of my hands and into the water, despite never having the club fly completely out of my hands during even a single shot in my life.  So I grip it tight and results are sometimes comical.  But that didn't stop me from bombing a drive from the 7th tee backwards into the open ocean, and it was a pretty damn good drive considering how tightly I was holding the club ;)  Its not a fear of water, move me back 10 feet and I'm fine, and not fear of falling in because I'll have it even if it was a pond so shallow I could wade across.  I think I need a shrink ;D
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