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Bill Gayne

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2007, 10:16:17 AM »
Looks like my ballot wasn't counted. That's okay -- it's hard to feel slighted by a list that has Oakmont at 40th, Riviera at 64th and Royal Melbourne at 116th.

I voted twice and got snubbed both times.

Matthew Hunt

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2007, 11:26:17 AM »
Bill and Rick what post number is your votes?

Oakmont and Riviera will move up the list as it goes on.

Royal Melborne is number 13.


Jordan Wall

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« Reply #127 on: January 07, 2007, 12:13:12 PM »
No Kapalua on that list
 ???

That would be my #1 course...

I'll refrain from the other nine though as I haven't played enough courses.
But, make sure Kapalua is on that list!
 :)

Matthew Hunt

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« Reply #128 on: January 07, 2007, 12:20:42 PM »
OK

You seem inpresesed with Peter Jans though ;D

You could make it top 30 :)

Rick Shefchik

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #129 on: January 07, 2007, 01:03:36 PM »
Matthew,

My post was #86. I guess you haven't gotten that far yet. And yes, I see that I was looking at Royal Melbourne East (116) on your latest list, not West.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2007, 06:10:38 PM by Rick Shefchik »
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Matthew Hunt

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« Reply #130 on: January 07, 2007, 01:05:22 PM »
I'm up to 68 so far
« Last Edit: January 07, 2007, 01:05:42 PM by Matthew Hunt »

Bill Gayne

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« Reply #131 on: January 07, 2007, 01:24:18 PM »
#12

Matthew Hunt

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #132 on: January 07, 2007, 01:26:47 PM »
I'll Fix that Bill

Tim Gavrich

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #133 on: January 07, 2007, 01:33:29 PM »
Because I am not as well traveled as most, my list may skew the rankings a bit...

1 Yale GC
2 Newport CC
3 Pinehust No 2
4 Palmetto GC
5 Cuscowilla
6 Taconic GC
7 Athens (GA) CC
8 Hartford GC
9 TPC River Highlands
10 Caledonia G&FC
11 Doral Blue Monster
12 Duke University GC
Senior Writer, GolfPass

ed_getka

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #134 on: January 07, 2007, 05:56:42 PM »
WWPB=World Woods Pine Barrens course
"Perimeter-weighted fairways", The best euphemism for containment mounding I've ever heard.

Matthew Hunt

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Re:GCA.com Ratings
« Reply #135 on: January 13, 2007, 07:03:59 AM »
Bump

Will finish soon.

Peter Pratt

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #136 on: January 16, 2007, 08:29:36 AM »
Thanks, Matthew, for doing this. Despite its limitations, it's an interesting exercise.

Matthew Hunt

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #137 on: January 16, 2007, 11:42:21 AM »
This is the Top 100 up to Post 80, The nerxt list will be final.


1.St Andrews Old 303 pts
2. Royal Dornoch 248
3. Sand Hills 188
4. Royal County Down 185
5. Pine Valley 183
6. Pacific Dunes 150
7. Cypess Point 149
8. Merion 140
9. NGLA 137
10. Ballybunion 115
11. Pebble Beach 109
12. Royal Melbourne(West) 105
13. Shinnecock Hills 101
14. Muirfield 99
15. Pinehurst #2 95
16. Crystal Downs 83
17. North Berwick 53
18.Winged Foot (West)51
19. Prairie Dunes 50
20. Royal Portrush 45
21.Turnberry (Ailsa) 43
22. Ballyneal 42
23. Woodhall Spa 41
24. Augusta National 39
25. SFGC 36
26. Carnoustie (Championship) 36
27. Kingsley Club 32
28. Sunningdale Old 35
29. Bethpage Black 34
30. Lahinch 28
31.Royal St Georges 27
32. Lawsonia Links 25
33. Oakmont 24
34. Hoylake 24
35.  Kingston Heath 23
36. Friars Head 22
37. Whistling Straits 22
38. Teeth  of Dog 22
39. The Ocean Course 22
40. Garden City GC 21
41. The Golf Club 19
42. Machrihanish 18
43. Bandon Dunes 18
44. Rolling green 18
45. Yale 18
46. Victoria National 18
47. Royal Cinque Ports 18
48.  Pasatiempo 17
49. Nanea 15
50. Ganton 15
51. Seminole  15
52. TPC at Sawgrass 15
53. Tobacco Road 13
54.  Barnbougle Dunes 13
55. Harbour Town GL (Hilton Head Island, SC) 12
56. Dancing Rabbit - Azaleas (Choctaw, MS) 12
57. Wolf Run GC 12
58. Lahinch 11
59. Bandon Trails 11
60. High Pointe 10
61. Kingsbarns 10
62. Addington 10
63. Doonbeg 10
64. St. George's (Toronto) 10
65. Black Wolf Run GC 10
66. Capstone Club 10
67. Royal Birkdale 10
68. Shoreacres 10
69. The European Club 9
70. Myopia Hunt 9
71. Cascades 9
72. Cobblestone (Acworth, GA) 9
73. Maidstone 8
74. Mayacama 8
75.  Riviera 8
76. Sebonack 8
77. Woodlands 8
78. Birkdale 8
79. Pennard 8
80. Machrihans 8
81. GreyWalls 8
82. Annbriar (Waterloo, IL) 8
83. Banff Springs 8
84. Alwoodley 7
85. New South Wales 7
86. Highlands (Cape Breton) 7
87. Cruden Bay 7
88. Dancing Rabbit – Oaks 7
89. Sandwich 7
90. Preswick 7
91. West Sussex 7
92. Indian Creek 7
93. Metropolitan, Vic 7
94. Lookout Mountain GC 7
95. Point O'Woods GC 7
96. Wild Horse 6
97. French Lick 6
98. New South Wales 6
99. Walton Heath 6
100. Berkshire Red 6

Max Caulkins

Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #138 on: January 16, 2007, 03:04:37 PM »
Oy vey, my first post. I guess I'll try one that I understand...
"First time caller, long time listener, love the show, Ran..."
My favorites, based only on courses I've played (I assume that is the criteria all are using, no?):

1. NGLA
2. Cypress Point
3. Pine Valley
4. Pacific Dunes
5. Seminole
6. Ballyneal (yes, I'm a homer. Wait, no, I'm not. A homer would have put it way higher!) ;D
7. Sand Hills
8. Prairie Dunes
9. Shinnecock Hills
10. Augusta National (golf course only. The rest of the experience there sends it to the top of my list, without a doubt).
11. Shoreacres
12. LACC (North), Riviera or Bel-Air (someone else pick, I cannot decide
 ???)

Wow, this is way harder than I expected. This exercise gave me a profound sense of gratitude for the courses/members I have been able to dupe into letting me play. Leaving Myopia, Whistling Straits, Bandon Dunes or Nanea was tough for me, not to mention my paralyzing indecision re: a course in LA. Ask me tomorrow and my list could change dramatically.

As you can see, I have not left the US of A to play at all. I hope to remedy this soon!

John Kirk

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #139 on: January 16, 2007, 03:30:12 PM »
I see that Oakmont is a little underrepresented.  If someone could arrange to have me play Oakmont twice, I will guarantee that I will place it at least tenth in my list, thereby giving Oakmont three points, which jumps it ahead of Lawsonia Links.  

Matthew Hunt

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2007, 05:14:55 PM »
Oy vey, my first post. I guess I'll try one that I understand...
"First time caller, long time listener, love the show, Ran..."
My favorites, based only on courses I've played (I assume that is the criteria all are using, no?):

1. NGLA
2. Cypress Point
3. Pine Valley
4. Pacific Dunes
5. Seminole
6. Ballyneal (yes, I'm a homer. Wait, no, I'm not. A homer would have put it way higher!) ;D
7. Sand Hills
8. Prairie Dunes
9. Shinnecock Hills
10. Augusta National (golf course only. The rest of the experience there sends it to the top of my list, without a doubt).
11. Shoreacres
12. LACC (North), Riviera or Bel-Air (someone else pick, I cannot decide
 ???)

Wow, this is way harder than I expected. This exercise gave me a profound sense of gratitude for the courses/members I have been able to dupe into letting me play. Leaving Myopia, Whistling Straits, Bandon Dunes or Nanea was tough for me, not to mention my paralyzing indecision re: a course in LA. Ask me tomorrow and my list could change dramatically.

As you can see, I have not left the US of A to play at all. I hope to remedy this soon!

Welcome Max to GCA.com

Max Caulkins

Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #141 on: January 16, 2007, 05:32:16 PM »
thanks. I am humbled by the presence of so many great voices of GCA here. I'll try to stay out of the way for the most part but will pipe up if a post touches on my modest base of knowledge. Or a thread is in desperate need for the layman's opinion.

Max

Michael Robin

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #142 on: January 16, 2007, 07:11:00 PM »
THEEEE Max Caulkins, former winner of The Renaissance Cup? Welcome Max and I share your enthusiasm for Ballyneal.

MR.

Mike Benham

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #143 on: January 16, 2007, 07:27:50 PM »
Wait, a late ballot with hanging chads ...


1.  Olympic Club Lake (this should vault The Lake into the Top 60 ;) )
2.  Pasatiempo (improve the ranking from 48 to the top 30)
3.  Cypress Point
4.  The Old Course
5.  North Berwick
6.  Spyglass Hill
7.  Rustic Canyon
8.  SFGC
9.  Barona
10.  Prestwick
11.  The Ocean Course - Kiawah Island
12.   Bayonet – Seaside, CA
"... and I liked the guy ..."

John Kirk

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #144 on: January 16, 2007, 07:30:02 PM »
If we can get the rest of the Ballyneal members to join GCA, and then participate in this poll, Ballyneal could go top ten easy.

It feels great to have Max Caulkins humbled by my presence.  Nice list for such a modest base of knowledge.

Paul_Turner

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #145 on: January 16, 2007, 08:20:31 PM »
This is the Top 100 up to Post 80, The nerxt list will be final.


1.St Andrews Old 303 pts
2. Royal Dornoch 248
3. Sand Hills 188
4. Royal County Down 185
5. Pine Valley 183
6. Pacific Dunes 150
7. Cypess Point 149
8. Merion 140
9. NGLA 137
10. Ballybunion 115
11. Pebble Beach 109
12. Royal Melbourne(West) 105
13. Shinnecock Hills 101
14. Muirfield 99
15. Pinehurst #2 95
16. Crystal Downs 83
17. North Berwick 53
18.Winged Foot (West)51
19. Prairie Dunes 50
20. Royal Portrush 45
21.Turnberry (Ailsa) 43
22. Ballyneal 42
23. Woodhall Spa 41
24. Augusta National 39
25. SFGC 36
26. Carnoustie (Championship) 36
27. Kingsley Club 32
28. Sunningdale Old 35
29. Bethpage Black 34
30. Lahinch 28
31.Royal St Georges 27
32. Lawsonia Links 25
33. Oakmont 24
34. Hoylake 24
35.  Kingston Heath 23
36. Friars Head 22
37. Whistling Straits 22
38. Teeth  of Dog 22
39. The Ocean Course 22
40. Garden City GC 21
41. The Golf Club 19
42. Machrihanish 18
43. Bandon Dunes 18
44. Rolling green 18
45. Yale 18
46. Victoria National 18
47. Royal Cinque Ports 18
48.  Pasatiempo 17
49. Nanea 15
50. Ganton 15
51. Seminole  15
52. TPC at Sawgrass 15
53. Tobacco Road 13
54.  Barnbougle Dunes 13
55. Harbour Town GL (Hilton Head Island, SC) 12
56. Dancing Rabbit - Azaleas (Choctaw, MS) 12
57. Wolf Run GC 12
58. Lahinch 11
59. Bandon Trails 11
60. High Pointe 10
61. Kingsbarns 10
62. Addington 10
63. Doonbeg 10
64. St. George's (Toronto) 10
65. Black Wolf Run GC 10
66. Capstone Club 10
67. Royal Birkdale 10
68. Shoreacres 10
69. The European Club 9
70. Myopia Hunt 9
71. Cascades 9
72. Cobblestone (Acworth, GA) 9
73. Maidstone 8
74. Mayacama 8
75.  Riviera 8
76. Sebonack 8
77. Woodlands 8
78. Birkdale 8
79. Pennard 8
80. Machrihans 8
81. GreyWalls 8
82. Annbriar (Waterloo, IL) 8
83. Banff Springs 8
84. Alwoodley 7
85. New South Wales 7
86. Highlands (Cape Breton) 7
87. Cruden Bay 7
88. Dancing Rabbit – Oaks 7
89. Sandwich 7
90. Preswick 7
91. West Sussex 7
92. Indian Creek 7
93. Metropolitan, Vic 7
94. Lookout Mountain GC 7
95. Point O'Woods GC 7
96. Wild Horse 6
97. French Lick 6
98. New South Wales 6
99. Walton Heath 6
100. Berkshire Red 6


Not to be a smart arse, Birkdale=Royal Birkdale and Sandwich=Royal St Georges
can't get to heaven with a three chord song

Mike_Sweeney

Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #146 on: January 16, 2007, 08:44:22 PM »
1. NGLA
2. Pine Valley
3. Cypress Point
4. Sand Hills
5. Shinnecock
6. Pebble Beach
7. Fishers Island
8. Garden City
9. Merion
10. Yale
11. Newport CC
12. Enniscrone

Need to get overseas more.

Brian_Sleeman

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #147 on: January 16, 2007, 09:46:44 PM »
If having played is a prerequisite:

1.) Cypress Point
2.) Crystal Downs
3.) Greywalls
4.) Kingsley Club
5.) Pasatiempo
6.) Tobacco Road
7.) Olympic (Lake)
8.) Pine Needles
9.) Lawsonia (Links)
10.) Milwaukee CC
11) Monterey Peninsula CC (Shore)
12) Indianwood (Old)

Ask me again when I get back from Kapalua in a couple weeks  ;)

Brendan Dolan

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #148 on: January 17, 2007, 12:22:48 AM »
Been following this one from the start.  Figure that I should share my top twelve.

1.)  Ballybunion
2.)  Royal County Down
3.)  Royal Portrush
4.)  Erin Hills
5.)  Lahinch
6.)  Lawsonia
7.)  Enniscrone
8.)  Carne
9.)  Waterville
10.) County Louth-Baltray
11.) Portsalon
12.) Criet Island,  Pretty sure I spelled it wrong, it is a neat 9 holer on the northwest coast of Ireland.

Joe Hancock

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Re:Golf Club Atlas Golf Course Rankings
« Reply #149 on: January 17, 2007, 06:48:38 AM »
Closing date Dec 20th (Rankings will be done for Xmas)

In the beginning.....

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