Garland,
If you think thats the best way to educate the slowpokes and get their attention so be it.

In working with my high school girls team, most of them start as beginners to the game. They start by taking 4 practice swings every shot and hitting it 10 feet occasionally. Before they get to the course, other than making sure they can hit the ball, I make sure they understand the importance of finding the happy medium between concentrating on hitting a good shot and doing it without undue delay. They walk in about 3.5 hours as is the norm for the municipal course that we played on.

I agree with the others that have said that pace of play is directly correlated to how much effort the management puts into their pace of play policies and mainly whether or not these marshalls actually enforce it.

I'd be interested to see if your idea would work. I believe you are suggesting raising rates then giving it back to the speedy players. I think some would go elsewhere due to concern they would not get their money back. It might work if it caught on with a good marketing campaign, but it might be a disaster if poorly implemented.

By the way Barney, the credit card thing was of course a joke and I have no intention of taking you up on your offer.

Sorry Kalen, you will have to find another 4th.

Thanks, you have saved me a ton of money and time and proved my point.

Quote from: John Kavanaugh on August 08, 2007, 06:51:50 PM

Thanks, you have saved me a ton of money and time and proved my point.

Which point would that be? That I am a social misfit?

Quote from: Garland Bayley on August 08, 2007, 07:07:31 PM

Quote from: John Kavanaugh on August 08, 2007, 06:51:50 PM

Thanks, you have saved me a ton of money and time and proved my point.

Which point would that be? That I am a social misfit?

Obviously, as we're not willing to drop everything and fly out to Indiana to prove some kind of silly point of John's.

Quote from: Garland Bayley on August 08, 2007, 07:32:47 PM

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And what problem did the singles and twosomes make?
Did they hit into the groups in front of them?
Did they yell obscenities at them?
Did they yell at you for letting fivesomes on the course?

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Garland,

We have already covered this........ A twosome slows down the groups they are playing through...

Sorry, but we haven't covered this. The twosome is not slowing down the group it is playing through, because they aren't playing through unless the group is already slow.

and to answer your other questions yes, yes and yes.
And you get the same behavior from threesomes and foursomes.
So to be a little tongue in check, your point is pointless

Garland,
If you think thats the best way to educate the slowpokes and get their attention so be it.So be it.

In working with my high school girls team, most of them start as beginners to the game. They start by taking 4 practice swings every shot and hitting it 10 feet occasionally. Before they get to the course, other than making sure they can hit the ball, I make sure they understand the importance of finding the happy medium between concentrating on hitting a good shot and doing it without undue delay. They walk in about 3.5 hours as is the norm for the municipal course that we played on. Good job Andy!

I agree with the others that have said that pace of play is directly correlated to how much effort the management puts into their pace of play policies and mainly whether or not these marshalls actually enforce it.Fine, but I suggest moving away from enforcing.

I'd be interested to see if your idea would work. I believe you are suggesting raising rates then giving it back to the speedy players. I think some would go elsewhere due to concern they would not get their money back. It might work if it caught on with a good marketing campaign, but it might be a disaster if poorly implemented.You basically have it right. Suppose a municipality has four courses all relatively easily accessible for it populus charging $30 each. They pick the one with the least time penalty in rough and hazards, raise it to $40 with the opportunity to earn a $10 coupon if they are randomly found to be in position. The other courses are raised to $32.

Quote from: Andy Troeger on August 07, 2007, 08:44:28 PM

Garland,
If you think thats the best way to educate the slowpokes and get their attention so be it.So be it.

In working with my high school girls team, most of them start as beginners to the game. They start by taking 4 practice swings every shot and hitting it 10 feet occasionally. Before they get to the course, other than making sure they can hit the ball, I make sure they understand the importance of finding the happy medium between concentrating on hitting a good shot and doing it without undue delay. They walk in about 3.5 hours as is the norm for the municipal course that we played on. Good job Andy!

I agree with the others that have said that pace of play is directly correlated to how much effort the management puts into their pace of play policies and mainly whether or not these marshalls actually enforce it.Fine, but I suggest moving away from enforcing.

I'd be interested to see if your idea would work. I believe you are suggesting raising rates then giving it back to the speedy players. I think some would go elsewhere due to concern they would not get their money back. It might work if it caught on with a good marketing campaign, but it might be a disaster if poorly implemented.You basically have it right. Suppose a municipality has four courses all relatively easily accessible for it populus charging $30 each. They pick the one with the least time penalty in rough and hazards, raise it to $40 with the opportunity to earn a $10 coupon if they are randomly found to be in position. The other courses are raised to $32.